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          Book Series?

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          1 post, latest post: gmackenz, Jul 24, 2007
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          1. gmackenz Metaweb Staff
            Jul 24, 2007
            gmackenz says:

            Wikipedia often has topics for book series (like James Bond for the series of books written by Ian Fleming). Should we have a similar property like Comic Book Series?

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          Bibliographic data

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          1 post, latest post: infobuddha, Jul 18, 2007
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          1. infobuddha
            Jul 18, 2007
            infobuddha says:

            Freebase has tremendous potential for Libraries, especially academic research libraries. And we have *a lot* of data that could be contributed. Have you considered the standard Dublin Core 15 fields as a possible basis for entering bib data (i.e. 'entering a book')? The way the domain is set up now is pretty vague. Would love to discuss anything related to this topic with other librarians or interested persons.

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          ISBN confusion

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          4 posts, latest post: bridoleur, Jul 11, 2007
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          1. bridoleur
            Jul 11, 2007
            bridoleur says:

            I just added a book edition "What just Happened" and used that as a spring board to creating the base "Book" entry. Unfortunately it looks like the ISBN I entered for the edition is showing in the Book type... this is incorrect as ISBN refers to a specific edition. Further removing it form "book" also removes the ISBN from the "Book Edition Entry" I don't know if the order I added the items, or something else I inadvertently did caused the false linkage, but irregardless,I don't believe the higher level category "Book" simply should have an ISBN property ...

            1. bridoleur
              Jul 11, 2007
              bridoleur says:

              It appears when I do a search for the title it brings information for both the "edition" and the "book"

            2. jeff Metaweb Staff
              Jul 11, 2007
              jeff says:

              It looks like, instead of creating a separate book from the edition you entered, you added "book" as a co-type to the book edition, which combines the two types for this topic. This would have happened if you selected the book edition's title from the auto-complete menu in the "edition of" field. You can flag this topic to be split by clicking the little triangle at the end of the title and selecting "split into multiple topics". We hope one day to have some logic that will prevent this sort of thing from happening accidentally, but not yet.

            3. bridoleur
              Jul 11, 2007
              bridoleur says:

              Thank-you... off to insert request. Until you get the 'logic' in place is it possible to add the caveat you give to the description page for each of these types... that might help keep bad data from creeping in.

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          Readers Advisory topical data ? Help in classifying beyond genre lines.

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          1 post, latest post: thadguidry, Jul 6, 2007
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          1. thadguidry
            Jul 6, 2007
            thadguidry says:

            Wondering if a help topic for describing a book's appeal might be important later on. Of course, some of this is subjective, but other's are more concrete. Such as Pacing, Characterization, Storyline, Frame/Setting, Tone/Mood, and Style/Language. These are important in considering what some call readalikes or feelalikes that many in the book world use in reviews to describe beyond mere genre classification. Some of the examples are based upon Joyce Saricks' work on Readers Advisory. Examples of these would be...

            Pacing... Are characters and plot revealed slowly or quickly? Is there more dialogue or description? Synonyms that come to mind are: Breakneck, relaxed, measured, fast-paced, unhurried, surely-paced.

            Characterization... Are they developed over time? or immediately recognized? Single character focus or multiple lives? 1st person point of view? or not? Synonyms that come to mind are: Detailed, distant, dramatic, sympathetic, vivid, inspiring, multiple points of view, quirky

            Storyline... Emphasis on situations and events or people? is the focus psychological or action oriented? Synonyms that come to mind are flashbacks, folksy, gentle, inspirational, multiple plot lines, plot twists, racy, sexually explicit, strong language, tragic, domestic, explicitly violent, mystical.

            Frame/Setting... is the background detailed or minimal? Synonyms that come to mind are contemporary, accurate, exotic, lush, political, rural, urban, small-town, historical, timeless

            Tone/Mood ...does the tone dominate the readers impression of the book? feelings you get when reading the book. Synonyms that come to mind are...Austere, bittersweet, bleak, dark, edgy, foreboding, gritty, haunting, heartwarming, hopeful, humorous, introspective, magical, optimistic, philosphical, psychological, romantic, sarcastic, sensual, suspenseful, thoughtful, upbeat.

            Style/Language...Does the writing matter? Is the language more important than story or characters? Synonyms that come to mind are Academic, colorful, concise, elaborate, flamboyant, frank, jargon, metaphorical, ornate, poetic, simple, sophisticated, thoughtful, umembellished, unusual, vivid

            Factors to consider when describing books...
            What does the author do best?
            What makes the book popular? What do readers talk about most?
            What other authors/titles does the book remind you of?
            Who else might enjoy reading this book and why?
            How does it fit with other books in a genre?

            Factors specific to Nonfiction...
            Is it authoritative (well-researched)?
            Is it informative?
            Is it entertaining?



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