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What does the community think of classifying those few language Music Genres to a parent structure by the native language ? What would be the best modeling or topics to handle this ?
My initial reaction was to link the above topic of French Pop Music to a parent music genre of "French Language" (human language), it seems logical to me as ONE parent classification system to use... but am wondering if there are any gains to be had with linking to a new Music Genre or Media Genre called "French" ? To me, there does not seem to be much gain at all, and would make things much more confusing...because:
The other way of thinking would be this: The addition of the word "French" into any Music Genre appears to be a need to note the language of a particular genre, effectively creating a sub-genre. So, you could classify by a SECOND parent classification system that links French Pop Music to a parent music genre of "Pop Music".
Let's say I want to quickly query ALL "French Pop" music artists... their country of nationality might be "France", "Belgium", even "United States of America"...so there's an additional need to query and classify at the Music Genre level. iTunes, AMG, Musicbrainz, Spotify, all seem to sub-classify this way. Creating a query for ALL "French music" artists becomes harder when there is no parent Music Genre for "French music" that could be an additional parent genre to help further classify all the sub-genres such as "French House", "French Pop", "French rock", etc
Thoughts ?
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I think you need to distinguish between language, nationality, home country, and music genre. I'm not sure there is a "French music" genre, unless you're talking about traditional folk (and then you'd need to distinguish among Breton and other unrelated genres in the French geography). Celtic music spans Ireland, Bretagne, the Canadian Atlantic, etc and is sung in multiple languages by performers of various nationalities. Is a traditional Breton Celtic tune really "French Celtic"? That's not at all obvious to me.
Unless it's really a distinct genre, I don't think I'd qualify it. Do we need to distinguish between German death metal and U.S. death metal? Does German death metal have something in common with German opera which is useful to quantify? Obviously the language is the same, but is there any commonality in the music?
Also, if you look at the definition of French Rock, it's not defined the way you want it to be. It's any rock performed by an artist from France, no matter what language they sing it in. I think you probably want to create another dimension to classify along using language of performance or country of artist.
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Yeah Tom, Helping to query the "language of performance" at the Artist level is where I was asking for some cheating help. It doesn't seem that we can easily do that, or we could, but we might have community disagreement within.
It's a 2 or 3 sub-query method that gets me sort of what I want. But, I was hoping for 1 query :) but maybe that's not possible. And as you say, should not be, since it's not obvious at the Artist level anyway, but I was really hoping for that. (sigh) ... And having a new property called "Language of Performance" on the Musical Recording type seems to beg that it never will be filled in, since I cannot find any metadata at that level, but only at the Music Genre level. iTunes has nice "French Pop" genre music artists, and so does AMG's metadata for genre.
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