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          Does Governmental Body include bodies that have been dissolved?

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          3 posts, latest post: jeff, Jul 22, 2010
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            lukeschubert Freebase Experts
            Jul 22, 2010
            lukeschubert says:

            This topic is for a body that formed part of the government of France from 1801 to 1813 (according to Wikipedia). Is it valid to type this (a former body) as Governmental Body?

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              lukeschubert Freebase Experts
              Jul 22, 2010
              lukeschubert says:

              Just making sure this discussion appears in the Government Commons ...

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              jeff Metaweb Current Staff
              Jul 22, 2010
              jeff says:

              Yes, former bodies should use this type.

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          Governmental Body and Government Agency

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          2 posts, latest post: jeff, Sep 17, 2009
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            faye Metaweb Current Staff
            Sep 17, 2009
            faye says:

            Are Governmental Body and Government Agency incompatible types?

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              jeff Metaweb Current Staff
              Sep 17, 2009
              jeff says:

              They probably should be, yes.

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          Congress v. Session

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          5 posts, latest post: jeff, Jun 22, 2009
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            dme
            Jun 19, 2009
            dme says:

            It looks to my--very untrained eye--that there's some confusion between Congress and Session (of Congress). A Congress is usually composed of two sessions, see: http://clerk.house.gov/art_history/house_history/Session_Dates/sessionsAll.html

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              tfmorris Top Contributor Freebase Experts
              Jun 21, 2009
              tfmorris says:

              I agree, but I'm not sure if it's simply a inappropriate name (Session instead of Congress) or something more.  Is there a need to track individual sessions of Congress as opposed to just the dates it was formed and dissolved?

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              dme
              Jun 21, 2009
              dme says:

              Is there any reason not to follow the procedures and terms as defined and used by the House and the Senate?

              I there any reason not to conform to the methodology of the House and the Senate?

              http://clerk.house.gov/art_history/house_history/Session_Dates/sessionsAll.html

              http://senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/one_item_and_teasers/Years_to_Congress.ht 

              Here's the Senate's definition of session:

              session - The period during which Congress assembles and carries on its regular business. Each Congress generally has two regular sessions (a first session and a second session), based on the constitutional mandate that Congress assemble at least once each year. 

              It seems this schema has been improperly designed, but my knowledge of schemas is not sufficient for me to state this with any degree of certainty.

              The House and Senate doc's, however, are clear, and, furthermore, are clearly different from Freebase.

              What is the next step here?

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              tfmorris Top Contributor Freebase Experts
              Jun 21, 2009
              tfmorris says:

              Actually, in looking at this more closely, the issue is that the property "sessions" is associated with the type Governmental Body which is generic to all types of governments, not something specific to the United States. I'm not familiar enough with the world's governments to know if there's a good word which would be more appropriate than "sessions" for which is encoded here.

              The next step is to get more informed opinions from someone that knows more about this than me, specifically the domain administrators http://www.freebase.com/view/government#domain-members.  They're the only ones that can change things anyway, assuming that a change is needed.

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              jeff Metaweb Current Staff
              Jun 22, 2009
              jeff says:

              Thanks for catching the ambiguity in the terminology.  The schema is intended to capture Congresses (Knessets, Dumas, Parliaments, etc.), rather than what are typically called sessions, so name "session" was probably the wrong choice. The use seems to be that the period between elections is called by the name of the legislative body, but we can't call the type and properties "Legislative Body", since that would be too easily confused with the "Governmental Body" type.

              Maybe "Instance of Governmental Body" (since executive bodies like the Swiss Federal Council also use this type), or something similar?

              Please let me know what you think.

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          Cleaning Needed on Gov Body

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          1 post, latest post: evening, May 6, 2009
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            evening Top Contributor Freebase Experts
            May 6, 2009
            evening says:

            I'm poking around the Governmental Body table and there are quite a few "bad associations.  For example, many are also Typed as Governmental Agency, or an Administrative Division.  (I made some more saved views on my page, which is just a start)

            I'd love some help cleaning this up, and also in determining which are valid (or invalid) associations.  A couple I'm not sure how to correct, for example, are the Office/Title ones.  And some may need to be split (like Structure and Location which I think are talking about the buildings they meet in as opposed to the body).

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          Divide "Members" into "Current Members" and "Former Members"

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          2 posts, latest post: crism, Mar 12, 2009
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            mangala
            Mar 12, 2009
            mangala says:

            The supreme court member list includes justices who have already left or died.

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              crism Freebase Experts
              Mar 12, 2009
              crism says:

              The membership includes start and end dates. It should be possible to figure out current and former justices from that information. This is a very common modeling pattern in Freebase; see also company employees, board members, other government office holders, students, etc.

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