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          How to connect Art Series being Exhibited ?

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          12 posts, latest post: thadguidry, Nov 1, 2011
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            thadguidry Freebase Experts
            Oct 24, 2011
            thadguidry says:

            Problem: The Exhibit Type definition does not allow Art Series from what I can tell, only single items.

            Ideally, someones art series could be exhibited (along with another artists' series or works) that becomes a Show (Exhibition) at a gallery. I have seen this many times, and it looks like we just need to allow connecting the dots, perhaps with an additional property on the Art Series itself for something like "part of Exhibition" ?

            Exhibition name: "LOST & FOUND" Venue: Gallery Brown Date of Exhibition: Nov 20, 2010 Exhibition art displayed: 1. "Dead People's Stuff" series by Richard Dana Smith (that's what he calls his series) 2. selected works by Robert Mars (no series, for him)

            http://robertmars.blogspot.com/search/label/Richard%20Dana%20Smith and http://www.facebook.com/pages/Richard-Dana-Smith/167649472475

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              jeff Metaweb Current Staff
              Oct 26, 2011
              jeff says:

              Why not just put in the selected works by Richard Dana Smith?

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                thadguidry Freebase Experts
                Oct 26, 2011
                thadguidry says:

                Not sure I understand you Jeff. I did add 2 of his Artworks here: http://www.freebase.com/view/m/0h8bnb6

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                jeff Metaweb Current Staff
                Oct 27, 2011
                jeff says:

                I mean, why not put them in the exhibition? What's gained by entering the series as having been exhibited? (For one thing, putting in the individual works avoids the issue of whether the entire series was exhibited, or just part of it, especially if the artist adds to the series after the exhibition.)

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                thadguidry Freebase Experts
                Oct 27, 2011
                thadguidry says:

                That's why they do not pay you enough ;) AH ! So, I just simply needed to add the Co-type of "Exhibit" to those 2 Artworks, as I have done now ? It should look much better now, Agreed ?

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                jeff Metaweb Current Staff
                Oct 27, 2011
                jeff says:

                Yes, that looks lovely.

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                thadguidry Freebase Experts
                Oct 27, 2011
                thadguidry says:

                Great. Can I ask a little favor ?

                1. Perhaps add a with "Artwork" ?

                2. The description I would like to see would additionally add mention of Artwork and Art Series as an example:

                "An exhibit is an item that has been displayed as part of an exhibition. Note that this should only be used for single items, such as Artworks, not for classes of items, such as Art Series"

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                jeff Metaweb Current Staff
                Oct 27, 2011
                jeff says:
                1. I'm not sure what you mean by add a type_hint with "Artwork"? All types generally get Type Hints, and Artwork already has a type description.

                2. An art series isn't really a class of items, though; it's a specific (group) entity; "paintings" is a class of items. The term "single work" should already exclude art series, since by definition, art series are composed of multiple works.

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              thadguidry Freebase Experts
              Oct 27, 2011
              thadguidry says:

              Grr... 1. should be Perhaps add a type_hint with "Artwork" ?

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                thadguidry Freebase Experts
                Oct 27, 2011
                thadguidry says:

                The problem is that I didn't know that Exhibit could be usefully used for this.

                I am just trying to help with discovery of the Exhibit type within the web client. Perhaps that is not really possible beyond what we have already ?

                I was wondering however if it made sense to have Artwork simply have a delegated property for "Exhibit" ? or maybe add Exhibit as an included type for Artwork ? Just something more to help with discovery... Seeing that lonely property on Exhibit, seems like that same property could easily be put or moved upon the Artwork type itself...but then I guess we still do need to keep Exhibit type...since you could have the need for Exhibits themselves along with a greater Exhibition of multiple Exhibits showcasing numerous Artworks such as ?? :

                Exhibition : "Mogadishu - Battles Fought"

                Exhibit 1 : "Force Reconnaissance"

                Artworks exhibited : A.) Midnight Skyline with Force B.) Preparedness (A Glowing Halo)

                Exhibit 2: "Air Superiority"

                Artworks exhibited: A.) Brandenburg base military huddle B.) Devil's Wing Advocate

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                jeff Metaweb Current Staff
                Nov 1, 2011
                jeff says:

                Exhibits can have be many things, not just artworks, so it needs to be a separate type. Aliasing it as "artwork" would be misleading, I think. I also think you're misreading the definition of the Exhibit type: it's an exhibited thing, not a subsection of an exhibition.

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                thadguidry Freebase Experts
                Nov 1, 2011
                thadguidry says:

                I do not think I am misreading. "An exhibit is an item that has been displayed as part of an exhibition."

                as part of an exhibition sort of lends itself to the idea of a subsection of an exhibition. part-of, subsection, hates_english... ;)

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