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          9 posts, latest post: carmenmfenn1, Sep 8, 2008
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          1. carmenmfenn1 Top Contributor
            Sep 5, 2008
            carmenmfenn1 says:
            Cris, please give us "Songs composed," I need it for John Cage. Thank you
            1. crism Metaweb Staff
              Sep 5, 2008
              crism says:
              Please use the “Works Composed” property of the Composer type.
            2. carmenmfenn1 Top Contributor
              Sep 5, 2008
              carmenmfenn1 says:
              ... then why does John Cage have the "Song composer" type without anything on it??
            3. crism Metaweb Staff
              Sep 5, 2008
              crism says:

              He has the Songwriter type, which as I said before is a shorthand for both Composer and Lyricist. Songwriter has no properties of its own.

              He also has the Composer type with several “Works Composed” already entered. You can add to that list.

            4. carmenmfenn1 Top Contributor
              Sep 5, 2008
              carmenmfenn1 says:

              Good morning, Cris, did you see my 3 wonderful philosophers on the front page today??

              Sure, I can do that, but it is not nice to have empty spaces on the page. Look at Cage, please, what is the use of the "Songwriter" "Lyricist" boxes if we cannot put anything in them? It simply does not look good. Cage wrote songs...

            5. crism Metaweb Staff
              Sep 5, 2008
              crism says:

              The Lyricist type has the property “Lyrics Written.”

              Some types, like Songwriter, are only used to classify topics, and have no properties of their own. We generally try to avoid them, but Songwriter was added to the system early on.

              As I said in our earlier discussion, the notion of which compositions are songs and which are not is too subjective to easily divide. Many people regard Cage as a cutting-edge composer, and would consider calling his compositions “songs” dismissive. Rather than provoke edit wars, it is simpler to regard all musical compositions equally in Freebase.

            6. carmenmfenn1 Top Contributor
              Sep 6, 2008
              carmenmfenn1 says:

              Yes, I see your point, but it looks UGLY. Is there a way, then, of getting rid of the "Songwriter" from the page? If we cannot use it, it is better not to have it there at all. Why keep useless things? Please have a look at Cage, his page could look REALLY good if it was not for these 2 empty boxes.   

            7. crism Metaweb Staff
              Sep 8, 2008
              crism says:

              With over 3,000 songwriters in Freebase, I do not see the utility in removing it. And when someone is a songwriter, why not say so?

              The UI could use some improvement for property-less types. That is not a good reason to remove a correct assertion, however.

            8. carmenmfenn1 Top Contributor
              Sep 8, 2008
              carmenmfenn1 says:
              I meant remove the "Songwriter" from Cage's page not from Freebase

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