Discussions on danm

Hi degsy,

 I've forwarded your message onto the proper data loading folk, and hopefully they should be posting back to you shortly.  It would be great to load some more football teams into freebase.  I see yo've already started looking at the schemas in the /soccer domain; do you have other recommendations for changes?

I guess I have lots of recommendations for changes, but my problem was that some suggestions from 2007 hadn't been actioned, so didn't want to waste my time (or others) if nothing was going to come of them.

I have spent 5 years gathering data for my site, and have a good idea of what data/properties I have, so will continue to make suggestions where applicable, on the relevant type pages - I assume that's the correct way?

Would love to help out "officially" in some capacity, especially where football is concerned.

You're right - a good way to start contributing is by exactly what you've been doing.  Start with a post to get the /soccer admins (and hopefully others) involved.  There are some current schema issues that are outstanding, one of which happens to be how to represent past team rosters.  Posting suggestions for changes will at least get the ball rolling.  Additionally, you can broadcast harder schema related problems to a wider audience by joining the data-modeling list (here)

As for the suggestions from 2007, I don't know what the blockage is/was.  It could be some combination of dropping the ball, lost interest, no follow-up, no time and/or no resolution.  I'll have to research further what these suggestions were and queue them up, if appropriate.  However, I hope this won't stop you from posting your suggestions; community input is invaluable, even if it's just commenting/critiquing other people's suggestion.  

Thanks for the information.

I'm also a computer programmer (broad term I know!), so I'm interested in this from many angles one of which is how to get my data in here (for others) and then to use it from my own site to keep it fresh (from others).

I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but already finding duplicate types listed for some items, and trying not to become too frustrated, and to help out like you said.

Past team rosters are one thing, but also past competitions seem to be neglected (in my interested area) which I'm trying to think about how to correct.

One question, is it best to suggest specific types (football/soccer) ones from the existing types (which seem to be great for NBA, MLB, etc) or to suggest changes to the existing "sports" types?

Currently, we don't have a generalized sports schema that other sports schemas can inherit from.  We can start simple and grow into that if necessary.  My suggestion would be to keep the football (soccer) stuff localized to the soccer domain.

Hi degsy. I already replied to a bunch of your comments in the football domain but I wanted to clarify a few things here.

First up, danm and aseem were the admins on the football domain but they don't have much time to work on it.  So cheunger and I have become admins there and we can now make changes to the schema.

Generally we don't appoint admins who don't have schema modelling experience on Freebase as it's easy to break things horribly if you're not careful.  So if you'd like to become an admin in this domain the way to move towards that would be to work on some modeling in your own private user domain(s), and get the hang of how our schema editor works, and so on.

However, we could make you an "Expert" in the football domain, which allows you to make changes to documentation in the domain and recognises your knowledge in the area.

This request seems pretty straight forward but we're actually modeling postal code in a slightly more generic way - it is intended to handle postal codes internationally, so a state property wouldn't apply in many cases. Zip codes will, however, generally be associated with addresses in the system - which are also locations that have geocode information that can be mapped. Does this help?

Only if I can run a simple query later on that says "give me brain surgeons (who graduated from Tulane) that now have a practice in the state of California, near Santa Monica" Will the engine handle this with grace once the data is in there ? I've sent email as well containing zipcode data to you, in case it helps. That data specifies City, State, Lat, Lon. Does that help ?