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<title>Freebase: Discussion about cheunger</title>

<updated>2009-11-13T00:44:36Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>hangy</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Wikipedia article of &lt;a href=&quot;/view/en/old_orchard_beach&quot;&gt;Old Orchard Beach&lt;/a&gt; claims that &quot;Old Orchard Beach is a town and census-designated place (CDP)[…]&quot;. According to this incompatible type definition this should not be possible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do we create separate topics here (one for town, one for CDP) or could the be a problem with this incompatible type? The Wikipedia text indicates that town and CDP are the same here …&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >The Wikipedia article of Old Orchard Beach claims that &quot;Old Orchard Beach is a town and census...</summary>

    <title>Census Designated Place (CDP) != City/Town: Old Orchard Beach, Maine</title>

    <updated>2009-11-12T21:03:10.0019Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>manoharv2001</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;**Shakti Samanta, who made superhit movies for Super Star Rajesh Khanna  who expired on Thursday ( 09-04-2009) after a brief illness. He was 83 and is survived by wife, two sons and two grandsons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“He passed away at around 5 pm on 9-4-2009  at his suburban Santacruz residence. He was recovering from a stroke which he suffered over two months ago,” a family member told reporters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Samanta was discharged two weeks ago from Jaslok Hospital where he was treated for two months. He was slightly paralysed and was recovering slowly,” Ashim Samanta, son of the filmmaker, told reporters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“However, his health deteriorated today,” said Ashim, also a film director.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Samanta’s funeral would be held at Santacruz crematorium at 11 am on 10-4-2009.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Shakthi Samanta-Super Star Rajesh Khanna pair was responsible for some of Bollywood’s memorable classics like Aradhana – 1969, Kati Patang – 1970, Amar Prem – 1971, Anuraag – 1972, Ajanabee – 1974, Mehbooba – 1976, Anurodh – 1977, Ayash – 1982, Awaaz – 1984, Alag Alag – 1985 &amp;amp; Dushman – 1990. All movies with Super Star Rajesh Khanna is super hit for ever.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Samanta, a former president of Indian Motion Pictures Association of India (IMPAA), directed 43 feature films, including 37 Hindi and 6 Bengali films.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Samantha was never cheap. There is something to be said for a filmmaker who helmed movies which in many ways defined the core character of Hindi cinema in the 1960s and 70s. Apart from everything else Samantha will be remembered for creating all of  Super Star Rajesh Khanna’s  films Super Hit from Aradhana to Dushman which were all super hit.Quite easily one of the last giant names of that period, Samatha’s passing ought to mean a great loss for bollywood cinema.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shakti Samanta directed his first feature film, ‘Bahu’ in 1954. After the success of his next few films like ‘Inspector’ (1956), ‘Sheroo’ (1956), ‘Detective’ (1957), Samanta started his own film production house.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Apart from his movies, the director is remembered for introducing actress Sharmila Tagore in Kashmir Ki Kali , who went on to form a legendary pair with Samanta’s blue-eyed boy Super Star Rajesh Khanna.**&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <title>Shakti Samanta: Super Star Rajesh Khanna &amp; Shakthi Samantha</title>

    <updated>2009-11-12T05:31:17.0017Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>gmackenz</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;I'd prefer the former, both pointing to film producer which would have films produced and films executive produced as a return linkages... Well that doesn't scan too well. Served as executive film producer on ... ?&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I'd prefer the former, both pointing to film producer which would have films produced and films...</summary>

    <title>Film: Production credit, Executive versus the rest</title>

    <updated>2009-11-12T01:32:49.0025Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>jeff</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Well, that's pretty true. Thinking about it further, it does seem that an executive producer in film is a completely different sort of role than the other various types of producers (despite the similiarity of names), so creating a new property makes sense. Next question: should it expect the existing Film Producer type or a new Film Executive Producer type?&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >Well, that's pretty true. Thinking about it further, it does seem that an executive producer in...</summary>

    <title>Film: Production credit, Executive versus the rest</title>

    <updated>2009-11-11T21:52:01.0000Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>tfmorris</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;This clearly shouldn't be a Person, but I'd hate to see it go away altogether because the Wachoski Bros are a well known entity.  It should be typed as some kind of Group or Set which includes the two people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The suggestion on the data modeling list was to type things like this using &lt;a href=&quot;/view/freebase/list&quot;&gt;List&lt;/a&gt;, but that has the unfortunate side effect of causes references to redirect to the communist (err, &lt;a href=&quot;/view/user/daepark/list&quot;&gt;Socialist&lt;/a&gt;) domain and there's no indication of when that bug will be fixed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >This clearly shouldn't be a Person, but I'd hate to see it go away altogether because the Wachoski...</summary>

    <title>The Wachowski brothers: Brother Co-directors</title>

    <updated>2009-11-11T18:44:23.0019Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>robert</name>
<uri>http://www.freebase.com/view/user/robert</uri>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think the break would be pretty catastrophic given how many apps are built on Film now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would strongly prefer a new property over mediating the Producer relationship.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I think the break would be pretty catastrophic given how many apps are built on Film now. I would...</summary>

    <title>Film: Production credit, Executive versus the rest</title>

    <updated>2009-11-10T21:47:57.0038Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>jeff</name>
<uri>http://www.freebase.com/view/user/jeff</uri>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;I prefer inserting the mediator, although it's a breaky change. It would bring film into line with TV shows, though: &lt;a href=&quot;/view/tv/tv_producer_term&quot;&gt;TV Producer term&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I prefer inserting the mediator, although it's a breaky change. It would bring film into line with...</summary>

    <title>Film: Production credit, Executive versus the rest</title>

    <updated>2009-11-10T21:16:47.0058Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>gmackenz</name>
<uri>http://www.freebase.com/view/user/gmackenz</uri>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I believe it may be advantageous to separate out the role of an Executive Producer from that of the Producer (and Assistant/Associated Producer).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We could do it simply with a new property for Executive produced by, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/edit/topic/en/children_of_men&quot;&gt;example on sandbox&lt;/a&gt;, that points to Film producer. Regular production and associated/assistant production would remain with original property.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Better might be inserting a mediator between Produced by and Film Producer, with enumerated topics for Executive, Associate, Assistant, and blank for the regular credit.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any objections? Improvements?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I believe it may be advantageous to separate out the role of an Executive Producer from that of the...</summary>

    <title>Film: Production credit, Executive versus the rest</title>

    <updated>2009-11-10T20:57:33.0026Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>sprocketonline</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think a Straight-4 is best described as an /automotive/engine_type, and the data attributing Straight-4 as an /automotive/engine should really be split out to the appropriate engine.  These individual engines would obviously be of engine type Straight-4 though.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'm not too familiar with the automotive commons, or which engine is appropriate for each of the cars trim levels listed - but if someone has the time and knowledge.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I think a Straight-4 is best described as an /automotive/engine_type, and the data attributing...</summary>

    <title>Automotive: Split engine from engine type</title>

    <updated>2009-11-08T16:51:58.0000Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>sprocketonline</name>
<uri>http://www.freebase.com/view/user/sprocketonline</uri>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think a Straight-4 is best described as an /automotive/engine_type, and the data attributing Straight-4 as an /automotive/engine should really be split out to the appropriate engine.  These individual engines would obviously be of engine type Straight-4 though.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'm not too familiar with the automotive commons, or which engine is appropriate for each of the cars trim levels listed - but if someone has the time and knowledge.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I think a Straight-4 is best described as an /automotive/engine_type, and the data attributing...</summary>

    <title>Straight-4: Split engine from engine type</title>

    <updated>2009-11-08T16:51:58.0000Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>alden</name>
<uri>http://www.freebase.com/view/user/alden</uri>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;the film producer and the politician are two different people.&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >the film producer and the politician are two different people. </summary>

    <title>Gordon Gray: two different people</title>

    <updated>2009-11-07T19:03:39.0018Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>hangy</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;I think the &lt;a href=&quot;/view/tv/tv_program&quot;&gt;TV Program&lt;/a&gt; type needs an alternative to the &lt;a href=&quot;/view/tv/tv_program/original_network&quot;&gt;Original network&lt;/a&gt; property for shows which originally air(ed) on &lt;a href=&quot;/view/broadcast/tv_station&quot;&gt;TV Stations&lt;/a&gt; which are not part of a network.&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I think the TV Program type needs an alternative to the Original network property for shows which...</summary>

    <title>TV Program: Alternative to &quot;original Network&quot;?</title>

    <updated>2009-11-07T15:09:38.0018Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>jeff</name>
<uri>http://www.freebase.com/view/user/jeff</uri>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;I think a simple &quot;chemical classification&quot; type (or &quot;chemical class&quot; maybe?), with a phylogeny pattern on it would work. The phylogeny would allow you to say that &lt;a href=&quot;/view/en/alkene&quot;&gt;Alkenes&lt;/a&gt; are a subclass of &lt;a href=&quot;/view/en/hydrocarbon&quot;&gt;Hydrocarbons&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I think a simple &quot;chemical classification&quot; type (or &quot;chemical class&quot; maybe?), with a phylogeny...</summary>

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    <updated>2009-11-06T18:22:04.0000Z</updated>

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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;I think a simple &quot;chemical classification&quot; type (or &quot;chemical class&quot; maybe?), with a phylogeny pattern on it would work. The phylogeny would allow you to say that &lt;a href=&quot;/view/en/alkene&quot;&gt;Alkenes&lt;/a&gt; are a subclass of &lt;a href=&quot;/view/en/hydrocarbon&quot;&gt;Hydrocarbons&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <updated>2009-11-06T18:22:04.0000Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>lukeschubert</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;To my mind, this topic represents a group of chemical compounds, rather than one single compound.  I propose that we create a new type to capture topics like these.&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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      <author ><name>lukeschubert</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;To my mind, this topic represents a group of chemical compounds, rather than one single compound.  I propose that we create a new type to capture topics like these.&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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      <author ><name>jon</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;there are two films - this one is the 2007 short and the other the 2009 feature.  Same director.  I'll enter the details to distinguish them...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;j&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >there are two films - this one is the 2007 short and the other the 2009 feature. Same director. I...</summary>

    <title>Dear Lemon Lima,: don't merge - flagged in error!</title>

    <updated>2009-11-04T16:22:51.0013Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>pak21</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/view/celebrities/celebrity&quot;&gt;Celebrity&lt;/a&gt; includes a link to a (time-moderated) sexual orientation.&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >Celebrity includes a link to a (time-moderated) sexual orientation. </summary>

    <title>Maurice Sendak: sexuality metadata</title>

    <updated>2009-11-04T13:16:39.0013Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>lwu</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was looking into how to tag folks such as Maurice that self-identify as gay...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are there any Sexuality / Personal Identity data types that I should know about?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Otherwise the Person type comes across as kind of, well, semantically heteronormative.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I was looking into how to tag folks such as Maurice that self-identify as gay... Are there any...</summary>

    <title>Maurice Sendak: sexuality metadata</title>

    <updated>2009-11-04T11:49:14.0018Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>tfmorris</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;I was voting too quickly and voted yes for the merger with episode 9, not episode 8.   Since there's no &quot;Undo&quot; on voting, I can't fix it.  I hope someone else is paying more attention!&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I was voting too quickly and voted yes for the merger with episode 9, not episode 8. Since there...</summary>

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    <updated>2009-11-03T22:12:51.0006Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>lukeschubert</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hadn't realised that this load also added web links for each politician - cool!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any plans for doing this for other parliaments, e.g. New Zealand?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I hadn't realised that this load also added web links for each politician - cool! Any plans for...</summary>

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