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<title>Freebase: Discussion about divideby0</title>

<updated>2008-10-11T19:04:24Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>gmackenz</name>
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    <content type="html">Made a mistake, this is a musical track of the composition.</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >Made a mistake, this is a musical track of the composition. </summary>

    <title>Alabama Song: don't merge</title>

    <updated>2008-10-08T21:22:32.0017Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>gmackenz</name>
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    <content type="html">This should just be a musical track for the actual composition, I think.</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >This should just be a musical track for the actual composition, I think. </summary>

    <title>Alabama Song: don't merge</title>

    <updated>2008-10-08T21:20:53.0017Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>faye</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;This topic may be poor substitutition for indicating the absense of something, but the fact that it's extremely well-used in so many situations by so many different users suggests that it serves a real purpose.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Freebase, after all, is an open data &lt;em&gt;community&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, and the community has found a need for a &amp;quot;None&amp;quot; topic. Unless or until a better alternative is provided, this well-used topic is simply too relevant to be removed from the system.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Please keep. &lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >This topic may be poor substitutition for indicating the absense of something, but the fact that it...</summary>

    <title>None: Absence of information vs. information of absence</title>

    <updated>2008-10-03T19:43:18.0012Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>skud</name>
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    <content type="html">On another note... even if we deleted &amp;quot;None&amp;quot;, it would keep popping up again and again as people kept trying to use it.</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >On another note... even if we deleted &amp;quot;None&amp;quot;, it would keep popping up again and again as...</summary>

    <title>None: Absence of information vs. information of absence</title>

    <updated>2008-10-03T17:33:40.0012Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>crism</name>
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    <content type="html">I disagree with Daniel that absence of information is sufficient. However, I agree that this peculiarly polymathic poymorphic None is a poor way to indicate it. As a concrete example, on &lt;a href=&quot;/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000003cbef5c&quot;&gt;my &lt;em&gt;Person&lt;/em&gt; topic&lt;/a&gt;, I have no value for the Spouse or Children properties. In one case, it is because of privacy for the other party or parties involved, and in the other, it is because of a positive lack of value. A way to concretely indicate known, negative value would definitely be useful.</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I disagree with Daniel that absence of information is sufficient. However, I agree that this...</summary>

    <title>None: Absence of information vs. information of absence</title>

    <updated>2008-10-03T17:23:39.0012Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>goodpairofshoes</name>
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    <content type="html">This page should be marked for deletion.&amp;nbsp; It serves very little purpose. The absence of information is a sufficiant indicator that a property is empty or invalid.</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >This page should be marked for deletion.&amp;nbsp; It serves very little purpose. The absence of...</summary>

    <title>None: Absence of information vs. information of absence</title>

    <updated>2008-10-03T13:51:37.0012Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>carmenmfenn1</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Neither !&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Candide is first of all a &lt;strong&gt;novel&lt;/strong&gt; by Voltaire in which he pokes fun at Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz (the inventor of the infinitesimal calculus) and his priciple of philosophical optimism (&amp;quot;all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds&amp;quot;).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Second, it is a &lt;strong&gt;comic operetta&lt;/strong&gt; by Leonard Bernstein based on this book. An operetta is a&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;little opera&lt;/strong&gt;, strictly a play with songs, entr'actes and dances.The term has become synonymous with &amp;quot;light opera.&amp;quot; Operetta is a hybrid between play and opera but a genre in itself !! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now it is up to you how you model this... &lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >Neither ! Candide is first of all a novel by Voltaire in which he pokes fun at Gottfried Wilhelm von...</summary>

    <title>Candide: Play or Opera?</title>

    <updated>2008-10-02T07:22:29.0012Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>skud</name>
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    <content type="html">And what about Rock Operas and where do they merge into musicals and... augh!</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >And what about Rock Operas and where do they merge into musicals and... augh! </summary>

    <title>Candide: Play or Opera?</title>

    <updated>2008-10-02T00:11:35.0012Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>jeff</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;I changed some of the data here that pertained to Voltaire's original story (e.g. the operetta was written in 1956 or so, not 1759). But this topic raises an interesting problem -- are operettas plays or operas? Or rather than open up a problem that's presumably unresolvable (Wikipedia, at least, suggests that the boundary is pretty fuzzy), how should this one be modeled?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Candide has a composer (Bernstein), a librettist or book writer (Hellman or Wheeler depending on the version), and a lyricist (Wilbur). The musical composition type gives us properties for two of them (composer and lyricist); the play type also has types for composer and lyricist, and also brings in author from the written work type. The presence of a book writer suggests that it should be a play; the fact that it is performed as an opera suggests it should be an opera.&amp;nbsp; We could just treat it as both, but that does leave some duplicated properties (the composer and lyricist properties, at minimum).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >I changed some of the data here that pertained to Voltaire's original story (e.g. the operetta was...</summary>

    <title>Candide: Play or Opera?</title>

    <updated>2008-10-01T20:16:09.0017Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>crism</name>
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    <content type="html">Duplicates should be merged, not deleted. This topic has the Wikipedia identifiers associated with it.</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >Duplicates should be merged, not deleted. This topic has the Wikipedia identifiers associated with...</summary>

    <title>Nautical Antiques: dupe.</title>

    <updated>2008-09-29T15:14:12.0005Z</updated>

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      <author ><name>teeler</name>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;of this:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000047c013f&quot;&gt;Nautical Antiques&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There's nothing lying around, it should be deleted. &lt;/p&gt;</content>

    
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    <summary type="html" >of this: Nautical Antiques There's nothing lying around, it should be deleted.  </summary>

    <title>Nautical Antiques: dupe.</title>

    <updated>2008-09-29T05:45:28.0017Z</updated>

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