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Scott Peterson: Split

2008-07-25T18:57:13.0017Z

I don't think this particular Scott Peterson is a TV Writer.

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-07-24T14:54:09.0000Z

Wikipedia tends to classify by the broadest institution, so there are a lot of actors associated with Yale University instead of the drama school. I think it's fine that we start with the lower-precision classification and as data becomes available, replace it with the more specific.

Apple Inc.: What will be the next bullet of Apple Inc.

2008-07-24T14:32:34.0012Z

this is the interesting questions, I also wondering what would be the next bullet of Apple

Apple Inc.: What will be the next bullet of Apple Inc.

2008-07-24T07:38:50.0017Z

Apple have bring 3G iphone to the market, any idea about what's the next bullet of Apple

Comic Books: Annuals: Stand-Alone Series or Special Issue

2008-07-07T11:41:41.0005Z

Should Annuals (Like Superman/Batman Annual or Sensational Spider-Man Annual) be listed as separate series or under the corresponding series with a special issue number?

Comic Books: Variant Covers

2008-07-06T17:19:29.0005Z

Is there a means of cataloging variant covers in the current system?

Comic Books: Multiple Cover Prices

2008-07-06T14:52:45.0005Z

Would it be possibly to allow more than one cover price on the Comic Book Issue type? I'm looking at my collection of The Spirit and they all have separate US and Canadian prices.

United States: Removed "Official Language" and Liberty Dollar as form of Currency

2008-07-03T16:55:01.0005Z

Removed "Official Language" as per Wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_United_States

Removed "Liberty Dollar" as it is not a currency in itself, but rather a unit of currency.

New York: I agree with deletion request

2008-07-03T02:38:41.0006Z

Officially the article should be "New York" or perhaps "The City of New York" but not New York, New York

United States: Liberty Dollar

2008-06-27T16:52:19.0005Z

I don't know that this can be rightfully linked as a form of currency inside the US as it is not recognized by the Federal government.

By the same token, the United States has no official language, although English is the predominant language.

New York: The Official Name Is...

2008-06-20T17:13:59.0012Z

And Sting’s official name is Gordon Sumner.
We have discussed the notion of adding an “official name” or ”legal name” property to some topics, but for now, the display name of a topic should be its most commonly-used name. In particular, cities show up in address information frequently; no one addresses mail to The City of New York, NY 10021. I am changing it back and adding T.C.O.N.Y. as an alias.
Your point about verification is a good one. However, this open model seems to work acceptably for Wikipedia, and with our finer granularity of assertions and login requirement, we have better means for detecting and undoing abusive usage patterns. As with Wikipedia, I would encourage you to watch (subscribe to the RSS feed of) topics that particularly interest you.
Another approach used by some of our users is to perform QA on the topics of interest and note the last-known-good timestamp. Queries via the API can then be scoped to only return information older than the last QA check.
Thanks again for your many contributions.

New York: The Official Name Is...

2008-06-20T14:35:18.0006Z

The City Of New York not "New York." New York is an "aka." But I'm not going to change it back and forth every other day. This is the only thing I don't like about Freebase. Anyone can just come in here and change the information abd screw up the API.

I really think Freebase should look at verifying information or utilize editors to approve changes before they go live. I'd hate to see all my hard work replaced with bogus information.

New York: Don't merge with state of New York

2008-06-20T09:58:56.0000Z

Absolutely do not merge this topic with the state.

New York: Don't merge with state of New York

2008-06-20T03:42:20.0019Z

The state and the city should not be conflated.

The Mask: Split character and comic book

2008-06-13T21:58:17.0012Z

Wikipedia is conflated.

HAT-P-2 b: Wrong name: should be HAT-P-2 b

2008-06-02T16:26:12.0000Z

No, do not delete, merge other topic to this...

HAT-P-2 b: Wrong name: should be HAT-P-2 b

2008-06-02T13:10:57.0005Z

Please see HAT-P-2 b instead

Comic Books: New type: Graphic Novel

2008-05-31T03:33:34.0029Z

Concerning the story continuation across different media (i.e. comic book series continued in a graphic novel), what about bigger media jumps, i.e. Firefly TV show -> Serenity: Those Left Behind comic book mini series -> Serenity movie -> Serenity: Better Days comic book mini series?

As it's unlikely something like this can be precisely modeled, I think the best we can do is to have an encompassing type that would facilitate finding story incarnations across different media.

For this I created a Media Franchise/Media Property type. Spider-man would be an example that spans all media: movies, MTV animated series, the upcoming Broadway musical, movie novelizations, comic books (obviously), OGNs, computer games, and movie soundtracks.

Comic Books: New type: Graphic Novel

2008-05-31T02:44:11.0000Z

>If CBC doesn't include GN, how would the continues/continued by properties work for series where there are both collections and original graphic novels?

That's a good question and an argument for reusing the GN type. Is it possible to have a property that has more than one expected type?

>Does the property "stories collected" really belong?

I think so. Comic Book Story (CBS) type has no publishing implications. Just like a comic book issue consists of one or more comic book stories (some of which might not be original), an OGN also consists of one (in which case CBS can be left blank) or more CBSs. Some examples of latter are Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall -- of an OGN with multiple original stories by one writer but different artists, and anthologies like Flight with multiple original stories by various authors.

If a book has both previously published comic book issues and new original stories, I would classify it as a comic book [issue] collection. Some Hellboy volumes exemplify this.

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-31T02:17:11.0013Z

>typelibrarian

Thanks for the input. I agree about the CBC writer. As for the editor properties, I could go either way, but it never hurts it include more properties as someone might use them.

Comic Books: New type: Graphic Novel

2008-05-30T23:43:46.0008Z

I'm not sure I have any answers, but I have lots of questions. (O Joy.)

If CBC doesn't include GN, how would the continues/continued by properties work for series where there are both collections and original graphic novels? (I think both Gaiman's Sandman and Carla Speed McNeil's Finder fit this description.) On the other hand, I'm not crazy about using a boolean for something like that -- I prefer to use the type system if at all possible.

Other thoughts on the GN type:

Does the property "stories collected" really belong? If it's an original graphic novel, doesn't that imply all new material? Otherwise, isn't it just a collection?

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-30T23:30:27.0000Z

In terms of editor, I'd say that if the level of precision is valuable, then we should keep the CBC properties. But if we only care about the primary editor, or don't mind lumping all editors together, we could use the property from Written Work.

For writers, I guess the advantage to the denormalization is that "comic book collections written" is more specific than the "works written" property on Author. Chances are, CBCs will end up with values in both properties, which would not be wrong, and is not necessarily bad.

Comic Books: New type: Graphic Novel

2008-05-30T07:12:30.0000Z

If graphic novel (GN) type was included in the CBC type, the GN could have a property 'Original' which would be true for original graphic novels (OGNs) and false for comic book collections. This would work with freebase API, but the keyword search would still be a problem: if you just want to browse the OGNs, the CBCs which are more numerous would pollute the search results.

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-30T06:59:18.0009Z

I guess the Book type Editor property might be reused too, depending on how precise we want to be at the collection level. Some comics credit Editor, Assistant Editor, Senior Editor, and Editor in Chief, but it's not that precise at a comic book issue level either.

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-30T06:51:02.0007Z

I removed the CBC publisher, and also removed the collection cover artist, as different editions might have covers done by different artists. I still think the CBC writer might be good to keep, especially if the comic book writer had a 'Comic Book Collections written' property which would be automatically linked to collections.

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-30T00:16:39.0007Z

I definitely think that publisher should be removed, since it's properly a property of book editions, not books (Jeff Smith's Bone collections, for example, have been published by at least three different publishers). I'm not 100% sure about writer and cover artist. I'm starting to think that these properties are not that different for comic collections than for other types of books. For example, visual artists will probably be listed as authors of monographs; newspaper comic collections will have the writer as author and illustrator as cover artist. I could be convinced the other way, though. (I'll take a look at Graphic Novel tomorrow.)

Comic Books: New type: Graphic Novel

2008-05-29T08:08:05.0012Z

I'm creating a new type Graphic Novel. It will be very similar to the Comic Book Collection (CBC) type except it won't have the following properties:

Series Collected
Issues Collected
First Issue Collected
Last Issue Collected
Number of Issues
Collection Cover Artist

Should I leave the CBC type as stand-alone or include the graphic novel type and just add the additional properties listed above? If latter, how would a user search for graphic novels only and not get comic book collections too?

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-29T07:39:54.0007Z

I ended up including the Book type in the Comic Book Collection (CBC) type. Both TPBs and hard cover volumes can be modeled through its Editions property. This would also work better for data import: i.e. Amazon has Punisher War Journal Vol. 1: Civil War as hardcover and links to the TPB edition.

Do you agree that Comic Book Writer, Comic Book Cover Artist, and Comic Book Publisher should not be removed from the CBC type even hough they map to more general Writer, Illustrator, and Publisher properties? The users can add comic book specific data after data imports that prepopulate general properties.

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-23T17:40:38.0000Z

I think including the Book Edition type is probably the best solution. And I really think only a few properties don't apply to comic book collections. TPBs and graphic novels are, after all, published like books, and have ISBNs and Dewey classifications and all that stuff. Audio reader is obviously not applicable, and the cover artist and illustrator properties are less precise than we would want for comics; contributing author is about as wrong for comics as it is for everything else -- it's there only for when we don't know more specific data.

(You did, however, just give me a very scary thought. It would not be wrong to model comic book issues using an abstraction/instance model, although it would probably only apply to the cover art in most instances, since variant covers tend to come in and out of fashion. And every once in a while, single issues are reissued, like for Free Comics Day. Not that I really want to do this -- it just occured to me that it would be possible.)

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-22T07:17:20.0007Z

Comic Book Collection does resemble a book edition, but it's not really an instance of abstract written work. And it's definitely not an abstract book/written work.

After all, a comic book issue is a written work in some sense, but we don't have an abstract comic book issue and then an actual published comic book issue.

I think there's too many properties not directly applicable to comic books. But I see your point about importing book data, so maybe inherit the book edition and live with the differences?

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-21T23:49:23.0007Z

I think this is an interesting type, and it has some potential. I'm concerned about its overlap with the types book, book edition, and written work, though. I think it would be good to take out the properties that are duplicated from those types, and get them via including the other types. Before we could do this, though, we'd have to figure out whether comic book collections are books or book editions. The difference is that the topic with the types Book and Written work is for the abstract notion of the work, and contains information that is always true about the work, no matter how it's published -- author, copyright date, genre, etc. Book edition is used for specific publications of the book, and has properties for publisher, publication date, etc.

Comic book collection has properties that correspond to both the abstract and specific notions, so we'd need to figure out where they went.

I want to reconcile the two schemata because we're ultimately going to be getting a lot of book data from various sources, and comic collections/TPBs/graphic novels will almost certainly be included with some of that data, and I'd like to avoid duplication.

But I do like the specificity of contents and contributions that this provides, which is more specific than the contents model in the publishing domain. We could do issues and stories collected using that model, but the roles would have to be less specific (author, editor, interior illustrator, cover artist).

Comic Books: New type Comic Book Collection

2008-05-21T08:14:22.0005Z

I created a new type Comic Book Collection and populated all Fables TPBs data. Let me know what you think.

If the type is useful enough, what's the process of adding it to the official comics domain? If it gets added there, do I still have some control over it or do further changes need to go through review?

Thanks

Comic Book Fictional Universe: New property Comic Book Series Set Here?

2008-05-18T05:51:30.0012Z

Could you please add a new property Comic Book Series Set Here? For example, the Fables universe would have 2 values there: Fables, and Jack of Fables.

Thanks

Comic Books: Linking Story to Issues

2008-05-13T18:55:11.0007Z

Ah, sorry. Didn't realize printing was a compound value. Thanks.

Comic Books: Linking Story to Issues

2008-05-13T17:18:19.0007Z

The properties "contents" (on "comic book issue") and "appeared in" (on "comic book story") are for that purpose.

Comic Books: Linking Story to Issues

2008-05-13T12:06:43.0012Z

Could we add a property that links Comic Book Story to Comic Book Issue?

Academic Library: Thanks for creating this type!

2008-05-01T18:02:28.0007Z

Yes, I think we shoudl probably model it on how hte public libraries work: Academic Library System (with associated institution), which has associated Academic Libraries.

Academic Library: Thanks for creating this type!

2008-05-01T15:26:38.0000Z

I'd like to see a field for linking it to the affiliated academic institution. A complexity that needs to be addressed is that on many university campuses, there are a number of different libraries, each of which may have its own name. I'd recommend that there be topics for each library on campus and field that links to the overall library system topic page and a field that links to the affiliated academic institution.

I'd do this myself, but I have no clue how to.

Academic Library: Thanks for creating this type!

2008-04-18T18:24:30.0012Z

Thanks so much for creating this type. I've added a couple of topics: the Bodleian Library and Baillieu Library at the University of Melbourne.

Can we help you at all with building this out a bit further? We could add properties for collection size, affiliated academic institution, etc. And then I think we'd probably like to promote it into /library if you'd be interested in that.

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-03-27T22:13:29.0017Z

Or, I suppose you could argue that everyone should be linked to the University itself, but I think that's less useful in the long run (if I'm interested in directors who went to the Yale School of Drama, I'd rather query that than to have to filter Yale Univ. grads by degree [MFA] and field of study [directing, drama, acting, etc.]).

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-03-27T22:10:34.0022Z

It does complicate queries, it's true. Ideally everyone would be linked to the school they graduated from. That said, it's useful to be able to say that someone graduated from Yale University, even if you don't know which school they attended.

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-03-27T21:26:57.0012Z

This is the case, although it complicates queries. Also, many alumni are linked to the university even though they attended Yale College.

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-02-14T23:16:00.0007Z

As near as I can tell, Yale College is the undergraduate college of Yale University, and should therefore be made a constituent school of Yale, along with Yale Law School, Yale School of Drama, etc., which I've now done.

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-02-14T21:56:01.0012Z

shouldn't these two be merged?

-chris

Comic Book Series: Include periodical

2007-12-12T16:11:15.0005Z

Since in almost all situations, a comic book series could also be considered a periodical, it should be added as an included type. This would allow us to remove many of the redundant properties from comic book series as well as having aditional information not currently available to comic book series. (such as publication frequency)

Comic Books: comic book artist?

2007-11-19T18:17:13.0007Z

"Comic book creator" exists as a profession already, which includes both artists and writers. You could use that, or create a new topic.

Comic Books: comic book artist?

2007-11-16T07:21:44.0007Z

I ask because I wanted to give a fictional person that as a profession in his fictional universe...but I couldn't find any such profession as general as a comic book artist.

Comic Books: comic book artist?

2007-11-13T17:18:43.0000Z

You mean "only does art" as opposed to someone who also writes? Sure -- there are lots of them. If you mean someone who exclusively does pencils, probably only on a per-project basis.

Comic Books: comic book artist?

2007-11-09T04:22:19.0012Z

is there such a thing these days as a comic book artist? (that is, someone who only does the art) inker and colorer are way too specific for what i have in mind.

New York: I agree with deletion request

2007-08-26T16:08:00.0012Z

This should be deleted as there is already a New York, New York topic started by mw