Freebase: Discussion about Awards

Award category: Ties

2009-12-16T00:21:11.0006Z

Just enter two award honors, one for each winner. See Hugo Award for Best Novel for 1966 for an example.

Award category: Ties

2009-12-16T00:09:56.0015Z

Is there any special technique, or secret trick, that is to be employed when entering an award that is being given twice as a result of a tie?

Long list nomination: Should be a CVT

2009-12-15T18:13:51.0000Z

Oops! Fixed now, thanks.

Long list nomination: Should be a CVT

2009-12-15T08:05:05.0013Z

I think the Long list nomination type should be a CVT.

Awards: Submissions

2009-12-14T21:31:29.0013Z

I've created a property and types for long-lists now. I think it should work pretty well. Let me know if anything's missing or needs to be clearer.

Country: Incorrect ID

2009-12-14T15:11:19.0013Z

Thanks for the clear explanation!

I understand that each URI is really just a GUID of sorts, and the data works fine when requested by that name. It just looked erroneous to be using that one as the primary ID when I queried for http://rdf.freebase.com/rdf/music.genre . It was an odd one out. I was a bit concerned that something with a UserID in the path may be sandbox data rather than canonic. Is there a way to promote http://www.freebase.com/view/en/country_music to being the 'preferred' or primary ID? ... Or not ... I see that is actually meaning a specific album name :-( . Dang.

FYI, the issue is: I'm testing a facility to import and reference shared vocabularies, and was planning to use the supplied URI/GUIDs as a primary key in an internal RDF triplestore. (Maybe I shouldn't do that, and just internalize the sameAs relations)

The given URI will still work (thanks for clearing that up) but just looked out of place in the diagnostic logs I was seeing. Partially (my fault) because my code is using the key found at the end of an URL as a temporary name for placeholder topics that haven't been individually fully retrieved yet. This is an ugly short-cut, but was returning sane results most of the time. My data queue listed : [ ... pop_music, trance_music, 00b3-10cd, breakbeat, black_metal ... ] ... I'll eventually be able to resolve that as I get the preferred name I guess. Just something to know! Thanks again. I think I'll be able to work with this..

Country: Incorrect ID

2009-12-14T14:08:44.0013Z

This is entirely expected. Each entity in Freebase can be referred to either by its GUID, or by an arbitrary number (possibly zero) of other IDs; there's then an algorithm which chooses the "primary" ID for each topic. Put simply, this algorithm chooses the shortest ID from the ones available, or uses the GUID if none exist.

In this case, the topic had not been assigned another ID (note that both /en/country and /en/country_music are used elsewhere), so when it was given an ID in Arthur's personal namespace, it started using that as its primary ID. However, nothing has changed here: you can still refer to this topic by its GUID or even by a number of Wikipedia keys, or even by its Wikipedia numeric article ID if you want. (The /wikipedia keys are never allowed to become the primary ID for a topic, which is why you weren't seeing those before). In the same way, you'll see raw GUIDs for any topics which don't have any other ID set.

Is this change of primary ID causing you a problem?

Country: Incorrect ID

2009-12-14T13:07:16.0014Z

Something has happened to this topic (Country Music). When the ID /user/avh/ellerdale.00b3-10cd was added to it, it seems to have taken over the identity of this resource. Now listings that include the concept of 'Country Music" Now instead include the concept of this odd User-defined Id

eg http://rdf.freebase.com/rdf/music.genre http://rdf.freebase.com/ns/type.type.instance [ http://rdf.freebase.com/ns/en.pop_music. http://rdf.freebase.com/ns/en.trance_music. http://rdf.freebase.com/ns/user.avh.ellerdale.00b3-10cd. http://rdf.freebase.com/ns/en.breakbeat. http://rdf.freebase.com/ns/en.black_metal ]

I can see when the erroneous ID was added http://www.freebase.com/history/view/user/avh/ellerdale/00b3-10cd But I can't see how to undo it.

I'm spotting a few other oddities (raw GUDs) in instances under music.genre as well.

Nicholas Murray Butler Medal: I am lost...

2009-12-12T12:00:19.0046Z

The best option I see would be to type this as an award, create three award categories of "Gold Butler Medal", "Silver Butler Medal" and "Bronze Butler Medal" and then fill in the "winners" property there with the winners.

In general, if you can't see how to fit some data into Freebase, you can always look at something similar and see how it's been done there.

Robert Andrews Millikan: Academic, Physicist, Nobel Laureate...which ONE?

2009-12-12T01:30:24.0000Z

humm...first question: What's the correct term for this..."most notable type"?

Is there no way to override this?

Better question: It would be interesting to write a query to display all Nobel laureates most notable types to assess this routine to say nothing of the exercise.

any pointers on where/how to start?

Robert Andrews Millikan: Academic, Physicist, Nobel Laureate...which ONE?

2009-12-12T01:18:42.0033Z

It's based on an algorithm which tries to guess the most notable type. I agree it's not always ideal.

Robert Andrews Millikan: Academic, Physicist, Nobel Laureate...which ONE?

2009-12-12T00:56:39.0025Z

Dr. Millikan was indeed an Academic, Physicist, Nobel Laureate...which ONE?

I am talking about what shows up (or drops down) from the search box when I type in ``Robert Andrews Millikan.''

I guarantee you that the Nobel was the first thing mentioned in his obituary, why is it that he comes up as an ``Academic''?

Is this set someplace or is this an automatic function of Freebase?

Nicholas Murray Butler Medal: Google query for more on this medal...

2009-12-12T00:18:36.0023Z

Oh how I long for MediaWiki's Discussion tab...but, you gotta make due with what you got.

Here's a decent google query for someone who wants to do some do some rsh (research) and shed some light on the mysterious Nicholas Murray Butler Medal.

Nicholas Murray Butler Medal: I am lost...

2009-12-12T00:10:42.0038Z

whew...I'm over my head.

I want to add the list of Recipient's of this award, but duh....I don't know how to do that....RTFM, yes I know that.