Adaptation

Initial D Arcade Stage: Split out individual games

2008-06-18T00:07:21.0005Z

The Wikipedia article discusses several related games; each should have its own topic and this should remain the series that connects them.

Danger: Diabolik: Don't split, I flagged the wrong topic

2008-05-15T21:37:09.0012Z

Ignore me, split the Diabolik instead...

Adaptation: Property for adaptation media?

2008-04-28T23:43:15.0007Z

It's live. Have at it! I made the list an enum, and populated it with what seemed like likely topics; if I missed any, please add them.

Adaptation: Property for adaptation media?

2008-04-28T21:50:38.0007Z

Perfect! Ship it! :)

Adaptation: Property for adaptation media?

2008-04-28T21:35:31.0007Z

http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/en/pride_and_prejudice

Take a look at this, and let me know what you think. But think quickly, because this will go away in a few hours.

Adaptation: Property for adaptation media?

2008-04-28T21:26:05.0007Z

D'oh! You're right, Chris. I don't know what I was thinking. I'll try adding a new property on "adapted work" for the medium on sandbox.

Adaptation: Property for adaptation media?

2008-04-28T21:21:37.0009Z

This sounds in some way like more of a client issue than a modeling issue. Should we denormalize the information implied by the type itself by making a property that basically contains the name of the type? Or should the client display this information in some other way? Dates tend to exist already on most of the types that are involved in adaptations, and sometimes as disambiguators. Again, this would be a denormalization to stick this value into a CVT. I'm not sure what the solution is; I understand the problem you're running into, since I've run up against it myself, but I really don't think a CVT is a great idea here.

Adaptation: Property for adaptation media?

2008-04-28T21:18:54.0007Z

Faye’s primary suggestion, adding a property, doesn’t require a new type. Having a type for creative work medium would make it more robust, but no new types are actually required.

Adaptation: Property for adaptation media?

2008-04-28T20:24:43.0007Z

It's just that when you're looking at a topic with adaptations, having only their names displayed doesn't really mean much to a user, especially since the adaptations tend to inherit the same name as the original work.

Take the Jane Eyre book topic, for example. It has eight adaptations listed: "Jane Eyre", "Jane Eyre", "Jane Eyre", "Jane Eyre", "Jane Eyre", "Jane Eyre", "Jane Eyre", "Jane Eyre". A user has to click on every single one to find out which is a film, a tv program, or a play, to find out if any of them is a dup, or to find out if a particular adaptation is already in the list.

Wikipedia puts diambiguating information into the page title: "Jane Eyre (Book)", "Jane Eyre, Film (1981)", etc. We don't -- because the logic goes we have type information, and a user can figure out what something is by looking at its type(s). Well, if that's the argument, then we should strive to display that type information where disambiguation is needed. I even think adding Date information to adaptations would be useful.

Adaptation: Property for adaptation media?

2008-04-28T17:43:26.0000Z

You're already talking about creating a new type, enumeration or otherwise, so in this case the icing and the cake are the same (mousse?). We'd actually have to insert a CVT between "adaptation" and "adapted work" to do this, so I'm a little reluctant to do this unless you have a pressing use case in mind.

Adaptation: Property for adaptation media?

2008-04-25T23:35:55.0012Z

Hi, I'd like to suggest adding a property to capture the media for which an adaptation is done, like "Adaptation Media" or "Adapted for Media". I'd also suggest checking the "displaying as disambiguator" option for this media property.

This way, when you're looking at an Adapted Work and there's a list of Adaptations, you can see at a glance the media/format for which they've been adapted, like "Jane Eyre - TV Program", "Iron Man - Film", "High School Musical - Play (aka Musical)", and "V for Vandetta - Book" (adapted from the film adapted from the comic book).

A secondary type of enumerated "adaptation media" may be created to help guiding user input to the appropriate types. But that's like icing on the cake. I'd be happy just to have cake.

I Am Legend: I saw this film recently

2008-04-04T19:06:49.0034Z

I didn't like the film. I found it to be very violent and dark. Yet another film with too much violence and not enough plot

I was disappointed

Casino Royale: Seperation

2007-10-20T05:47:28.0000Z

I concur...

Casino Royale: Seperation

2007-10-18T22:30:50.0012Z

Should be separated into the film and soundtrack

Moonraker: No this shoud not be split as this is the film topic for Moonraker

2007-09-17T21:34:42.0000Z

Almost all over the first 18 or so James Bond Movies have the same problem...I'll mark them as split candidates then?

Moonraker: No this shoud not be split as this is the film topic for Moonraker

2007-09-17T18:25:21.0000Z

It’s a split-and merge combination; we don’t have a good way to suggest that part of this needs to be merged right now, so a split is the easiest way to signal that.

Moonraker: No this shoud not be split as this is the film topic for Moonraker

2007-09-17T18:10:00.0012Z

There is another existing topic for the soundtrack...The attribution for Musicbrainz should be moved to the soundtrack Moonraker topic.

My Fair Lady: Ignore my split flag

2007-09-07T04:35:31.0005Z

I inadvertently marked this for split because it was marked as a Film. Only after I marked it for a split, did I find that there is an existing My Fair Lady Film, so I just detyped this one, leaving it as a play.

Tom Jones: Derived from or based on

2007-08-31T03:19:06.0000Z

Hi rookiemomheather,

In fact, there is a more generic type "Adaptation" that can be applied here. I think it will meet your requirements :)

Vishal

Tom Jones: Derived from or based on

2007-08-31T03:04:51.0005Z

Is there a freebase field to indicate that this work is derived from the novel, The History of Tom Jones? I don't see that anywhere.

Goldfinger: split

2007-07-16T04:41:26.0011Z

the wikipedia article is for the film

Hello, Dolly!: Splits

2007-07-11T21:11:15.0004Z

This should be split into three topics -- play, film, theater production.

Battlestar Galactica (2003): Universe is distinct from TV Series

2007-05-29T22:13:06.0006Z

I was being a little too zealous in my 'pruning'...I took the article in the original Battlestar Galactica 2003 to be a more general overview of the universe than the topic for just the TV series starting in 2003.

Well, I just edited the description of Robert's created topic to make it clear what it is, a Fictional Universe topic.

Battlestar Galactica (2003): Universe is distinct from TV Series

2007-05-26T05:17:00.0011Z

I created a separate topic for the Fictional Universe, which is really a distinct thing from the TV series. This will become particularly important when the new series "Caprica" comes out, which shares this universe and will have new characters.