TV Season

Frontline Season 3: Don't merge

2008-08-26T16:57:32.0010Z

This is a TV season. Renaming and adding as a child of the main article.

Frontline Season 2: Don't merge

2008-08-26T16:56:42.0017Z

This is a TV season. Renaming and adding as a child of the main article.

Frontline Season 1: Don't merge

2008-08-26T16:55:33.0005Z

This is a TV season, adding as a child to the main article.

House - Season 2: Don't delete!

2008-04-24T19:38:51.0000Z

I've removed the delete flag from this topic.

House - Season 2: Don't delete!

2008-04-23T01:12:12.0007Z

Hey, talking about a person behind her back is considered impolite, Jeff! ;)

But seriously, discussion posts endorsing delete are often left behind long after the delete/merge operations are done. I second Bryan's suggestion to clean up such discussion posts if possible.

House - Season 2: Don't delete!

2008-04-23T00:38:53.0007Z

Maybe what merge_bot should do is clean up discussions. In the meanwhile, we can manually unlink the delete post so we don't cause any more confusion...

House - Season 2: Don't delete!

2008-04-22T23:42:59.0012Z

This thing has been in the delete queue forever, for some reason, but don't delete it! There is no other topic for this season of House, and Faye will weep tears of sorrow if she has to re-enter all this data.

TV Season: Season credits?

2008-04-14T18:16:22.0007Z

Oddly enough, we used to do this, but people complained about the complexity! It would be easy enough to put back in though, if people want it.

TV Season: Season credits?

2008-04-12T07:48:59.0012Z

Currently, an actor can be a series regular or an episode actor, but there is no way to model season credits. Long-running shows, and even some shorter-lived ones, change their main cast each season, and it is interesting to model.

The Wire - Season 5: Merge?

2008-04-07T20:58:04.0005Z

Don't merge the topic with the image.

House - Season 2: Delete this topic?

2008-03-12T18:54:35.0007Z

Eh, I meant "I definitely would NOT want this topic deleted", since I put so much work into it. When's editing going to be supported for discussion?

House - Season 2: Delete this topic?

2008-03-12T18:53:23.0007Z

I think what might've happened is that the dup topic has been merged with this topic (which I took quite some work to fill out), and the discussion I posted on the dup topic got carried over. I definitely would want this topic deleted.

House - Season 2: Delete this topic?

2008-03-12T17:07:40.0017Z

I can't find a duplicate of this topic. If it does exist, I'd recommend doing a merge, instead.

House - Season 2: Delete

2008-01-04T21:57:39.0012Z

I think this duplicate topic is safe for deletion.

TV Season: Season Number

2007-12-13T00:20:43.0007Z

I added the property. Feel free to plug away at it!

TV Season: Season Number

2007-12-12T23:28:00.0000Z

That's not a bad idea. I think we had been thinking that this information could be caluculated based on the "from" and "to" dates on the season, but it's a lot easier to figure out the season numbers than it is the airdates of the first and last episodes.

TV Season: Season Number

2007-12-12T07:13:06.0012Z

TV Season should have a property expecting an integer describing what season this is for the show.

You can usually gather this from the title, (ex. "Fonzie's Shark-Jumping Variety Hour - Season Three") but this would give a way to find that information progmatically, as well as enabling the functionality that faye was looking for.

TV Season: Naming TV Seasons Type automatically

2007-09-29T05:29:57.0005Z

as first time user of freebase, i was very unclear as to how i create and name a season for a tv show.
after Faye (from the first post in this discussion) corrected me, i understood it was just a matter of me writing my own text (since then, some1 has added a short explanation of how to create a new season).

i think there should be a mechanism, to automatically create (at the user's request) a type which is consisted from the name of the top level type (or some other fixed text) and to which to add a variable text which the user choose.

this is great for TV seasons, as they are consisted from show name, then the word Season and a number. but maybe there are other Properties which can use this.
in any case, it will garrentee the same nameing scheme all over Freebase.
what do you think?
i will also add this, if some1 hasn't already, as a feature request.

Star Trek: Voyager Season 5: "Dark Frontier" is one feature-length episode

2007-07-19T19:49:28.0007Z

Thanks, Faye, I totally meant to do that myself but I obviously forgot!

Star Trek: Voyager Season 5: "Dark Frontier" is one feature-length episode

2007-07-19T18:42:45.0007Z

Hi, I'll update the episode count of Season 5 to 25. You can do it too BTW -- just click on the "Edit" button under the description.

Star Trek: Voyager Season 5: "Dark Frontier" is one feature-length episode

2007-07-18T23:18:39.0000Z

This is a much more complicated issue than I had previously thought, on a couple levels. The general question is whether we should model episodes based on production or episode numbers or whether we should model them based on how they were originally broadcast. I'm inclined toward using the latter as a rule of thumb, since it does make intuitive sense. (For Dark Frontier it's muddled a bit in that most sites -- I checked imdb.com, startrek.com, and Wikipedia -- list the director credits differently; i.e., with the two directors directing different halves of the episode [or separate episodes depending on how you count] in various combinations. If it really was filmed in such a way that the two halves were directed by different people, it might argue for it really being two episodes. How to sort that information out, though, I have no idea.) For now, I'm inclined to keep it as a single topic and change the episode count for the season to reflect that. I'd count Equinox 1 and 2 as two episodes, regardless. With regards to Memory Alpha's data, they use a Creative Commons non-commercial license, which means that Metaweb can't incorporate their data the way we've done with Wikipedia. It is a great data-set, though.

Star Trek: Voyager Season 5: "Dark Frontier" is one feature-length episode

2007-07-18T02:30:39.0000Z

This is not a multi-part episode; it was produced and first aired as one 2-hour (feature-length) episode. Later in syndication, the episode was edited to fit into two one-hour slots and had scenes cut to allow more advertising, and other modifications. This is not how it was intended to be by the producers, and on the DVD release, it is one episode again. It is the policy over at Memory Alpha to consider it one episode. This is supported by the simple logic that only one article or object will represent it. The 'episode count' property for the season type should equal the number of episodes in the episode list. Currently, for the case of VOY season 5, there will be 25 objects linked in the episode list, but the episode count will say 26. That just seems wrong, considering that it favors the the unpleasant requirements of syndication against the intent of the producers. The "5x15/16" that you see on MA is more of a reference number than an index, the unique production numbers determine whether it is a single episode or multi-part. A more general concern I would have is that it should at least be consistent, if not completely logical. That does not seem to be the case among the seasons represented here. Also, for true multi-part stories, like season cliff-hangers finished in the next season, those should be regarded as two episodes and have two articles, one representing each part. They are individual productions, and air separately. This is the same for the multiple-episode story arcs of DS9 and ENT, some of them up to nine parts long. So, I would say no to the 24.5 idea. I would equate episodes to individual productions with unique production numbers. The count would always be a whole number.

Star Trek: Voyager Season 5: "Dark Frontier" is one feature-length episode

2007-07-17T19:37:35.0007Z

Actually, this page I entered by hand; it wasn't part of a load from Wikipedia. You bring up a very interesting point. There have been discussions regarding multi-part episodes in Freebase regarding how to type them and count them -- this affects shows like Doctor Who as well and the matter is far from final. In general, I want to encourage you to feel free to correct data you consider inaccurate. On this issue, though, I'm glad you decided to post a message to start the discussion. Both Wikipedia and StarTrek.com count each part of the story as a full episode, arriving at 26 for the season. I did consult the Star Trek wiki page you listed just now, and even though they say there are 25 episodes in the season, note that the episode number they gave to Dark Frontier is "5x15/16" -- episodes 15 and 16. Also, the last episode of each season of Voyager is almost always a split-season cliff hanger resolved in the next season. In season 5, for example, the last episode is Equinox, Part 1. And season 6 starts with Equinox, Part 2. Would you count the last episode of season 5 as half an episode (and making the episode count for the season 24.5)? Some users think so. You see the complexity of this matter. :) Let me know if you have some ideas about feature-length or multi-part episodes. The advantage of this or any other data community is that mistakes are made, sure, but they're also constantly being corrected. That's where users like yourself come in. Welcome to Freebase!

Star Trek: Voyager Season 5: "Dark Frontier" is one feature-length episode

2007-07-17T19:10:32.0004Z

There are only 25 episodes in season 5. Dark Frontier is split up for syndication, but it was produced, and first aired as one 2-hour episode. It's too bad that all the Star Trek information has been imported from Wikipedia. It should have been imported from Memory Alpha, the specific Star Trek wiki. The Wikipdia information is inconsistent and full of mistakes.

TV Season: Previous and Next Seasons

2007-06-09T01:16:46.0011Z

Hi, it would be nice to be able to browse to the previous and the next TV Season without going up the TV Program tree to view all seasons first, then making a selection. May I propose adding those as properties of a TV Season? They would serve as very useful navigational links, in addition to being good information to have. Thanks.