Freebase: Discussion about Metaweb System Types

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-17T00:08:33.0013Z

+1 on adding a property for the newspaper an unsyndicated column appears in. In fact, I think it should be a disambiguating property.

Does this Column type only apply to newspapers? Magazines and journals have columns too.

Column: Column frequency?

2009-12-17T00:02:46.0019Z

Great type, Chris!

May I suggest a property for capturing the frequency of a column -- daily, weekly, monthly, etc.

Columns: Promotion to commons?

2009-12-16T22:59:29.0000Z

Cool! Apart from the open question of unsyndicated columns, the main issue would be to document all the types, and as many properties as possible. I'll send out a note to the list for more review.

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-16T22:58:14.0013Z

How would "published by" and "publishing entity" work? Would "entity" be for syndicates, and "published by" be for newpapers?

Yeah, I don't think there's a real value in modeling which newspapers carried a particular syndicated column.

Fictional employment tenure: Allow Multiple titles

2009-12-16T15:40:25.0019Z

Can we either allow a character to have multiple titles, (preferred) or add to/from fields so we can track the progression from one job/title to the next. If adding to/from fields, they would probably need to be typed as my Fictional Date/Time. As that type is not yet in the commons (I think it still needs to be refined) it's probably better to go with the former.

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-16T13:46:46.0034Z

One approach would be to ignore the syndication status of a column when it comes to column publishers. A relationship type of column + published by + publishing entity, with date runs, may do the trick.

I haven't really thought about modeling syndication relationship to newspapers, mainly because data about subscribing publications (with dates) would be difficult to obtain for historical columns and newspapers.

Columns: Promotion to commons?

2009-12-16T11:37:59.0033Z

Yes to promotion.

Actor: If you're confused...

2009-12-16T08:25:28.0023Z

Oh,

I though I were in the sandbox. Sorry.

People: name changes...

2009-12-16T06:49:16.0015Z

I think Al made a type called Thing of Many Names for this purpose.

(We need to figure out what to do about a Names commons, really, for that and namesakes and a handful of other name-related things that are kicking around.)

People: name changes...

2009-12-16T05:12:24.0006Z

To delete an alias click "add an alias" (naturally).

There isn't a Name Change type, as far as I know, but you could certainly define one. Legally changing ones name via the courts is a relatively recent phenomenon. Until relatively recently, all one had to do was start using the new name.

Actor: If you're confused...

2009-12-16T04:27:06.0013Z

... by Freebase or schema design in general, the sandbox is a good place to start - www.sandbox-freebase.com.

That would save inflicting silly long property names on the general population.

Lürssen: Lürssen

2009-12-16T02:35:38.0011Z

Lürssen I feel is the top company in the 160 foot + Shipbuilding they made the frist powerboat ever & made it even after two world wars. I love Lürssen

People: name changes...

2009-12-16T00:42:48.0008Z

I see...sounds pretty loose...is there a Name Change Type? If one legally changes their name there's a date and undoubtedly lots of documentation of this event.

on a related topic: How can I delete an alias; an alias I created?

Award category: Ties

2009-12-16T00:21:11.0006Z

Just enter two award honors, one for each winner. See Hugo Award for Best Novel for 1966 for an example.

Award category: Ties

2009-12-16T00:09:56.0015Z

Is there any special technique, or secret trick, that is to be employed when entering an award that is being given twice as a result of a tie?

People: name changes...

2009-12-15T23:55:58.0003Z

Freebase doesn't distinguish name types beyond "preferred name" (ie name) and "other names" (ie aliases or AKAs). Ideally you'd want to be able to match up the name variant with the event or the source (e.g. name as it appears on the birth certificate), but the name model isn't that sophisticated yet.

People: name changes...

2009-12-15T23:31:36.0001Z

What is the correct way to enter a person who changed their name from the birth name?

Looking @ Bob Dylan; I see he's got a whole mess 'o aliases, however, looking @ his mother Beatty Zimmerman she's listed as giving birth to Bob Dylan, when in fact her child was not known as Bob Dylan until sometimes after his parents named him Robert Zimmerman.

Yes, yes, people should be listed by the name of which they are known, but isn't there a type to note name change(s)--or is this "type" the alias?

Video Game: Games "based on" existing works (e.g. films)

2009-12-15T23:09:07.0000Z

I thought about using the Adaptation type too...it would require an uncommon if not unusual interpretation of the word "adaptation". The Lego Star Wars games do follow the films' plot line closely, so I suppose it would make sense. Definitely will cotype with Work of Fiction.

Column Genre: Column Genre...Showbusiness

2009-12-15T21:37:27.0015Z

One partial solution would be to make Media genre an included type of Column Genre; this would bring in the phylogeny (that is, parent/child) relationship we use for all other genres.

Column Genre: Column Genre...Showbusiness

2009-12-15T21:26:17.0019Z

As we've seen, in Mr. Solob's obit, there was a genre of column of: Broadway.

As the times put it: ''New York Cavalcade,'' a column that was a chronicle of show business in an era when Broadway still was the center of that industry.

Clearly we need some additional genres; how about, can these genres be hierarchical, or otherwise related?

How about: Showbusiness: Broadway or Showbusiness: Theater or Gossip: Showbusiness: Broadway

Columns: Promotion to commons?

2009-12-15T21:01:58.0007Z

I'd like to suggest this base for promotion to the publishing commons. If you're amenable, I'll ask the D-M list to review it.

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-15T20:10:39.0018Z

How should unsyndicated columns be connected to their newspapers? (I'm assuming that this type is for newspaper columns, since syndication is primarily a newspaper thing.)

Video Game: Games "based on" existing works (e.g. films)

2009-12-15T08:15:39.0013Z

I'd use adaptation: this game is an adaptation of Episodes I-III while this one is an adaptation of Episodes IV - VI, and they're both works of fiction set in the Star Wars Universe (without personally caring "which" Star Wars universe that is, but I appreciate other people might).

I'm not sure that the LEGO theme and the video game series should be the same topic.

Video Game: Games "based on" existing works (e.g. films)

2009-12-15T00:45:51.0005Z

Hi,

How should I use to link a video game that either exists within the realm of or extends that of an existing work, such as a film? For example, I would like to say that the Lego Star Wars game series is derived from the Star Wars films, and is a part of the Star Wars franchise. There are several Franchise types but none pertains to video games. There's also Consumer Product with property Product Line that can probably be used to link books and films and games and toys of the same theme together.

Another possibility is to use Fictional Universe to indicate that a game is defined within a fictional universe. However, some fandoms are quite sensitive about Canon vs. Expanded Universe. Video games can be problematic when it comes to continuity.

Suggestions?