Freebase: Discussion about krsalis

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-18T00:23:45.0013Z

This would additionally require a new type "collection of columns" or the like, which would have an included type of Book.

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-18T00:22:24.0013Z

A property on the Column type for "book collection" or "collected in" would answer your use case. Reifying individual columns using the current publication model would answer mine. I see no reason both couldn't exist side-by-side.

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-17T22:08:07.0005Z

I was just pondering how to link columns to collection of columns published as books. Must topics for individual columns be created, or can I just start with the column topic, give it a year range, and link that CVT to the collection? I can't imagine entering individual columns for Herb Caen, for example, whose 50+ year career produced columns at a frequency of 5-6 days a week, even if I could find and correlate that data. Besides, his columns are not reprinted verbatim but heavily edited to omit anything too newsy and rearranged for flow. Technically the books don't really contain the original columns.

Column: Column frequency?

2009-12-17T19:56:32.0005Z

This would have to be date-mediated, and also allow for a value of "irregular".

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-17T19:55:55.0005Z

Capturing non-newspaper columns is a good idea. Some columns don't really have regular authors, just a regular periodical (the New Yorker has a slew of these: Talk of the Town, Onward & Upward with the Arts, Shouts & Murmurs, etc.), which we should keep in mind as a use case.

One additional thought I had is that if someone wanted to create topics for instances of a column, they could type the Column as a Literary Series. Not suggesting it be included as an included type, since it's definitely going to be the minority case (although I wish it weren't -- I could have once saved myself a lot of time if someone had entered each one of JB Priestley's "Thoughts in the Wilderness" columns individually somewhere, and further entered which ones were collected in the book of the same name. I'm just saying.).

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-17T00:08:33.0013Z

+1 on adding a property for the newspaper an unsyndicated column appears in. In fact, I think it should be a disambiguating property.

Does this Column type only apply to newspapers? Magazines and journals have columns too.

Column: Column frequency?

2009-12-17T00:02:46.0019Z

Great type, Chris!

May I suggest a property for capturing the frequency of a column -- daily, weekly, monthly, etc.

Columns: Promotion to commons?

2009-12-16T22:59:29.0000Z

Cool! Apart from the open question of unsyndicated columns, the main issue would be to document all the types, and as many properties as possible. I'll send out a note to the list for more review.

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-16T22:58:14.0013Z

How would "published by" and "publishing entity" work? Would "entity" be for syndicates, and "published by" be for newpapers?

Yeah, I don't think there's a real value in modeling which newspapers carried a particular syndicated column.

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-16T13:46:46.0034Z

One approach would be to ignore the syndication status of a column when it comes to column publishers. A relationship type of column + published by + publishing entity, with date runs, may do the trick.

I haven't really thought about modeling syndication relationship to newspapers, mainly because data about subscribing publications (with dates) would be difficult to obtain for historical columns and newspapers.

Columns: Promotion to commons?

2009-12-16T11:37:59.0033Z

Yes to promotion.

Column Genre: Column Genre...Showbusiness

2009-12-15T21:37:27.0015Z

One partial solution would be to make Media genre an included type of Column Genre; this would bring in the phylogeny (that is, parent/child) relationship we use for all other genres.

Column Genre: Column Genre...Showbusiness

2009-12-15T21:26:17.0019Z

As we've seen, in Mr. Solob's obit, there was a genre of column of: Broadway.

As the times put it: ''New York Cavalcade,'' a column that was a chronicle of show business in an era when Broadway still was the center of that industry.

Clearly we need some additional genres; how about, can these genres be hierarchical, or otherwise related?

How about: Showbusiness: Broadway or Showbusiness: Theater or Gossip: Showbusiness: Broadway

Columns: Promotion to commons?

2009-12-15T21:01:58.0007Z

I'd like to suggest this base for promotion to the publishing commons. If you're amenable, I'll ask the D-M list to review it.

Column: Unsyndicated columns?

2009-12-15T20:10:39.0018Z

How should unsyndicated columns be connected to their newspapers? (I'm assuming that this type is for newspaper columns, since syndication is primarily a newspaper thing.)