Freebase: Discussion about Publishing

Newspaper: Writers; Are writers also employees?

2009-12-15T20:58:40.0005Z

Using the "columnist" type from krsalis's base is a good way to separate columnists from other writers. Any writer (columnist or otherwise) employed by a newspaper can additionally use the Employer relationship.

Newspaper Issue: Newspaper Columnist

2009-12-15T20:38:27.0027Z

That's a nice base -- I hadn't seen that before. It definitely fills a void in the publishing commons.

Newspaper Issue: Newspaper Columnist

2009-12-15T19:52:29.0013Z

Hi Daniel,

The current publishing domain does not have a newspaper column type; however, I've started a Columns base, which may be what you're looking for. It will allow you to type a person as a columnist and then link the columnist to the name of his/her column. You may then link the column name to a syndication / wire service (Hearst Syndication?). Take a look at the Columns base at: http://www.freebase.com/view/user/krsalis/columns .You should go ahead and add New York Cavalcade as a new column and link that to Louis Sobol, the columnist. Please post a note if you have any further questions / suggestions. Thanks.

Chris

Newspaper Issue: Newspaper Columnist

2009-12-15T08:21:30.0018Z

Louis Sobol was a newspaper columnist, Quoting from his New York Times obituary of February 10, 1986:

Louis Sobol, a Broadway columnist for Hearst newspapers for four decades, died yesterday at Roosevelt Hospital after a long illness. He was 90 years old and lived in Manhattan.
Mr. Sobol wrote ''New York Cavalcade,'' a column that was a chronicle of show business in an era when Broadway still was the center of that industry.

It seems to my (very inexperienced) eyes that the Author type hasn't been created with newspaper columnists in mind.

Is there an alternative type that should be used for Newspaper Columnists or should we Author be adjusted to accommodate newspaper columnists?

Newspaper: Writers; Are writers also employees?

2009-12-15T07:31:44.0018Z

Is there a standard way to add writers to a Newspaper Type?

Should I follow the instructions for Editors?

Should we also follow this methodology for columnists as well?

If I am correct when I say that a writer is someone who from time to time has articles published under their name, while a columnist is employed by the newspaper to produce a regular product, then should we make a distinction with another type?

Publishing: co-type as a book?

2009-12-07T23:51:34.0020Z

You're making some good points, and I'm not quite sure how to best address them right now. But I think we might need to reconsider the relationship between books and translations (and therefore between translations and other kinds of works) now that we have so much more data and can see how it's being created and used.

Publishing: co-type as a book?

2009-12-07T19:13:12.0021Z

hmmm - if a user is using filtered views based on books that won awards (because they aren't a programmer and don't write queries - or don't know to use literature) they won't find it.

It also just seems counter-intuitive for a book award winning work to to not be a book.

What about the 60 or so other Beowulfs currently typed as books - are they all unique books or are many of them also translations?

Publishing: co-type as a book?

2009-12-07T18:59:20.0006Z

It should show up in queries for awards -- use the award category "subject or discipline" property, and filter for "literature". One of the main reasons translations aren't books is that a Book Edition can only be an edition of one book; if Translations are Books, then the edition has to be an edition of two Books -- the original book and the translation.

There might be a case for making Translations also be Written Works, and delegating "Translator" from "Author"; there was a reason I didn't do it that way, but it might not pertain any more -- I'll have to see if I can find my notes.

Publishing: co-type as a book?

2009-12-07T01:49:45.0017Z

I would be inclined to type this translation as a book but haven't yet as that seems contrary to the use of the translation type. However, this particular translation has won several book awards but won't show up in any book award queries or views that are book based without adding the book type.

Thoughts from publishing admins or others?