Computer games

Computer games: Game Platform and Computing Platform

2008-06-27T23:00:17.0013Z

What! The website errased the URL! Oh well. It's freebase.com /discuss/threads/en/linux

Computer games: Game Platform and Computing Platform

2008-06-27T22:59:39.0013Z

This specific problem is addressed here: .

Computer games: Game Platform and Computing Platform

2008-06-27T22:53:51.0000Z

If they're really just duplicate topics, you can flag them to be merged by clicking the little arrow button that appears next to the "edit" button to the right of the the topic's title.

Computer games: Game Platform and Computing Platform

2008-06-27T22:34:31.0012Z

Yeah. There are two Linux objects. One is a Game Platform, Software, Topic, etc. The other is an Operating System, Computing System, etc. The second one should be assimilated into the first one because the first one has a short URL (the other one uses a large ID). This could happen with other platforms, too, although I haven't checked just yet. How can one fix this?

Computer games: Game Platform and Computing Platform

2008-06-27T22:28:43.0012Z

I see that there's some duplication between those two types (and also some other types--for example, I just added all Computer Games into Software).

I just don't know how to fix this. There is a Linux Game Platform, and a Linux Computing Platform. I was thinking of just adding all Game Platforms into Computing Platform, but maybe that would cause duplication?

Computer games: Virtual Console vs. Wii

2008-05-22T18:29:26.0000Z

Both games are different from their respective originals, so they could be considered different games.

It really brings another problem into focus: do enhanced versions of a game count as separate topics or versions of the same game? Is Resident Evil for Gamecube a different topic from Resident Evil for Playstation?

Computer games: Virtual Console vs. Wii

2008-05-22T09:29:17.0000Z

Looks like before you remove/move the WiiWare and Xbox Live Arcade, some sort of reworking of the version property needs to happen.

And furthermore, is the Frogger available as an Xbox Live Arcade game really the same Frogger that is an Arcade game or an adaptation of a later console version? Galaga...Is it the same software just adapted to run on a new console/emulation?

Computer games: New Property for Computer Game Performance

2008-05-22T08:11:00.0000Z

I can think of a few examples.

Fighting games can sometimes have characters that are encounterable, but not playable. The most recent example I can think of is Ridley, Meta Ridley, Master Hand, and Crazy Hand in Super Smash Bros Brawl. Sometimes boss characters (like Geese in Fatal Fury) will be unplayable, though they might become playable in a later installment of a series.

Some character are known to make non-playable, cameo appearances, like Link and Samus in Super Mario RPG, or Mario in Punch Out.

Computer games: DS vs. DS Lite

2008-05-22T07:55:50.0007Z

The DS Lite is just a newer form factor for the DS. There should be no difference in compatibility as far as software goes. It's pretty much the relationship between the Game Boy and the Game Boy Pocket and Game Boy Light; different form, but runs the same software. Another example would be the Sega Genesis and the Sega Nomad.

From these examples alone, I could see the virtue in somehow identifying the different hardware revisions of a given system. There are also multiple incarnations of the NES, Super NES and Genesis. From a collector's standpoint, it would be useful to distinguish between these separate hardware designs. Perhaps another type is in order?

Computer games: Virtual Console vs. Wii

2008-05-22T07:42:11.0007Z

I would probably make the platform Wii, since that's the system that the data is tailored for. I think stuff like Virtual Console would be best described as a distribution mechanism. Perhaps a property for that would be advisable.

As for WiiWare, I would agree. Xbox Live Arcade is listed as a platform, though, and should be changed if WiiWare is also not a platform.

Computer games: Virtual Console vs. Wii

2008-05-22T05:45:59.0007Z

Definitely a distribution channel. The platform is the Wii. Wiiware is a delivery mechanism to allow on e to purchase/download to play on the Wii.

Computer games: Virtual Console vs. Wii

2008-05-22T00:47:12.0000Z

This is an interesting problem. You certainly wouldn't want people to have to add Virtual Console to hundreds of old games.

Assuming that VC is fully compatible with old platforms, we may need to have a property such as "compatible with" that asserts VC is compatible with other consoles. When somebody queries freebase, then, they would be able to see what directly supported platforms as well as what compatible platforms the software would run on.

And WiiWare seems more like a distribution channel/brand. I'm not sure it's really a platform.

Computer games: DS vs. DS Lite

2008-05-22T00:41:48.0007Z

There are two approaches to this I think:

1. Don't treat DS Lite as a distinct game platform. Instead, assert that the platform is DS. That is, if all games that work on DS work on DS lite, then this is probably the right answer

2. If not all titles are compatible, then keep DS Lite and for all games that are compatible, add this to their platform property.

Also, to support option 2, we could better possibly create a relationship between DS and DS Lite. This could be called "similiar platform".

Do you know of other examples of this kind of problem?

Computer games: New Property for Computer Game Performance

2008-05-22T00:36:44.0007Z

How common is this, do you think? It certainly could be added, but there is a tradeoff between complexity and completeness.

Computer games: New Property for Computer Game Performance

2008-05-20T23:02:28.0012Z

I think it might be useful to add a "Playable" property to the Computer Game Performance to distinguish between characters that merely appear in the game and those who can be controlled by the character.

Computer games: DS vs. DS Lite

2008-05-20T22:19:41.0012Z

Typing DS Lite as a Computer Game Platform seems kind of confusing, as there are no technical differences between it and the original DS. Should this really be a platform, or should we consider a new type for console revisions?

Computer games: Virtual Console vs. Wii

2008-05-20T22:15:29.0012Z

Virtual Console is typed as Computer Game Platform. Should this be used as the platform VC releases or should we stick with just Wii. Furthermore, should WiiWare be typed as Computer Game Platform and used in the same regard?

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-27T18:54:30.0007Z

I think that a list of songs makes more sense, primarily because I can think of a couple of instances where songs in the game aren't on a released soundtrack. That way, the true list of songs can be kept as well as a link to a released album, if need be.

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-27T04:04:34.0007Z

That makes a lot of sense. There's tons of games that aren't "musical games" in the same sense as Guitar Hero or DDR. I guess the real question is whether the property should be a link to a soundtrack or a list of songs like the Musical Game type has.

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-25T20:50:46.0007Z

I figured there was one for the Musical Game type. I guess I'm thinking it should be part of the main Computer Game type to accommodate the games that have licensed songs but aren't music games. Of course it could also be extended to original songs in more traditional games, as well (Final Fantasy series, Super Smash Bros soundtracks, etc.)

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-25T18:35:16.0000Z

Take a look at the "musical game" type linked in the previous post. I think that has what you're looking for.

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-25T18:24:43.0012Z

Would it be possible to add a Soundtrack property to provide a link to songs found in a computer game? This would be very useful for rhythm games (Dance Dance Revolution, Rock Band, etc.) and games with licensed music (Madden, Tony Hawk, etc.)

Computer games: Using Computer Game Version

2008-03-22T16:48:03.0000Z

The region property looks good. I was wondering if it was possibly to expand the Computer Game Version type to the same level of the main Computer Game type. The Computer Game type works for general information about a game but for a collector, there are so many nuances between version that it would make sense for each version to maybe have its own page. This would also be nice for Collector's/Limited Edition of games, where the extras can be detailed in that version's page. Would that be possible?

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-11-18T22:53:07.0000Z

I was think more along the lines the since different regions have different rating systems, the versions would carry the rating field, since each version will be region based as well, but I can see how it would make more since to attach all ratings to the main field.

One instance, though, where I can think of attaching two different ratings to different versions of the game is, of course, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. There are basically two versions of the game out on consoles; one with "Hot Coffee" and one without. Those early versions would have to be marked as AO for the ESRB rating and M for the later versions.

Computer games: Musical game

2007-11-14T17:06:13.0007Z

Oh, nice. I like that.. though I wonder if "input method" is unique to Musical Game or it might make sense at the video game level? I'll add it to Musical Game now and we can always move it later...

Computer games: Musical game

2007-11-14T04:52:26.0000Z

Looks good to me! Another interesting property is the kind of "input method" (as wpedia calls it) used to interact with the game (such as guitar, bongos, dance pad, etc).

Computer games: Musical game

2007-11-13T16:55:05.0005Z

Hey, I have a type in my domain, Musical Game that is for games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band, etc.. I've got a 45 games co-typed and have songs entered on a bunch of them. Anyone interested in including it in this domain?

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-11-10T23:56:51.0000Z

Is it frequent that the same game is rated different on different platforms? I don't know any such game off the top of my head, but I bet they exist or you wouldn't suggest that ratings be attached to versions instead of the main game. If it's an anomaly maybe ratings can be attached to version ALSO instead of only to the versions.

Here is the revived set of types on sandbox, accessible through this game:
http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000008f68d

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-11-06T09:11:02.0007Z

Sorry for the delay in recreating the types! I will try to get to doing that tomorrow. I have yet to investigate the Computer Game Version type in detail but it seems like one would have to make a new instance of this type for every {Region,Platform} combination there is for a given game?

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-11-05T18:00:34.0000Z

When the rating related types get recreated, perhaps they should be attached to versions of a game rather than the main game article itself, especially now that there's a region attached to each version.

Computer games: Using Computer Game Version

2007-10-16T17:47:16.0007Z

Duncan -- sorry for the delay. I added a "Regions" property (that expects the type "Computer Game Region") in the Versions type.

Computer games: Using Computer Game Version

2007-10-10T15:06:46.0012Z

I would love to use date from Freebase to write a program to manage my video game collection. To that end I would want to use the Computer Game Version type for it's platform-specific approach. One thing I'd like added, though is a sort of "region" field for Computer Game Version, as there can be major differences between the same game in different territories. Also, if the rating types are used. You could attach them to a game version instead of having multiple ratings attached to the main article. What do you think?

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-29T08:16:50.0007Z

These have probably been wiped away by the refresh. Because of the present lack of a community interested in the cvg domain (at least I think there is...if I'm wrong, please butt in!), I'll hold off recreating until there's some more activity.

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-25T02:00:48.0007Z

Alright, I've come up with something on sandbox, modeled after the film ratings types:

Rating: http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/schema/user/vtalwar/default_domain/video_game_rating
Rating system: http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/schema/user/vtalwar/default_domain/content_rating_system

Some examples:

ESRB
ESRB's Teen rating

Please let me know what you gamers think :) This is the first time I've done any real modeling...

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-24T15:19:27.0005Z

Good point, a rating should be linked to a board not a country - Im just not thinking complex enough. (-:

Computer games: Computer Mod

2007-08-23T16:10:50.0007Z

I think so, mainly because
- they are an additional part of a game
- cannot usually be used without the original game (as opposed to derivatives which only need the engine, e.g. Blue Shift for HL2)
- but are not core components of the original game.

Computer games: Computer Mod

2007-08-23T14:47:47.0028Z

Should a type be created for computer game mods, or should they be tagged as computer games of their own?

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-23T07:36:04.0000Z

I just now noticed the Film rating-related types we've got. I guess the answer is to create parallel types for Video Game ratings.

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-23T07:02:43.0000Z

This is a really good idea and is something we should readily be able to get right out of Wikipedia. I disagree that countries be tied to these ratings in any way; rather, ratings boards (there seems to only be a handful of them) are responsible for the ratings given, but I'm not sure what domain a Ratings Board type would fit in, since in some cases they rate more than just video games. Ideally all this would be modeled in a way that shows off the controversies often linked to game content and the resulting ratings.

As for how the ratings themselves would be modeled, I think a ratings type is definitely necessary. One question is whether these should innately be tied to a particular ratings board (via some property) or whether that board should be supplied through a cvt. I'm leaning towards the former, so I'll try some of this out on sandbox :)

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-06T06:28:45.0001Z

Probably a property that can contain Country & Code. In fact a Computer Game Rating type wouldn't be a bad idea since different countries have different rating systems - not to mention the fact that each country asigns codes individually.

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-07-22T20:17:51.0004Z

I'd suggest an ESRB Rating property for games, probably as an enumerated list.