tim

Computers: Capture programming language implementations?

2008-09-02T21:39:14.0012Z

I like the "programming language implementation" as a co-type on a piece of application software. You do need to be careful to allow multiple values, though, for the sake of software like GCC (that compiles a number of different languages).

Computers: Capture programming language implementations?

2008-08-31T14:19:12.0017Z

At the moment, I have Lisp on the brain, so I'm thinking of how to capture SBCL, CMUCL, and Clozure CL all as implementations of the programming language Lisp.

One way to go might be to add a whole new schema "programming language implementation" with field such as language, specification, and software (for the implementation itself).

Another might be to simply add the "programming language" type to each "software" topic that happens to also implement a language. We could use the "parent language" field to specify the language the software implements. Within the Lisp world, that's not an unreasonable way to go.

Thoughts? We're missing a useful category of information in our current schema for this space.

Computers: hidden properties on programming languages

2008-08-26T22:12:42.0012Z

can i also suggest a property on programming languages named "implementations" with an expected type of software?

Computers: Private Data

2008-08-20T09:22:44.0012Z

Thanks very much for your help on both counts.

Computers: Private Data

2008-08-19T14:08:48.0013Z

Short answer: no. Freebase is a data commons. All data in it is publicly available. Some of it is harder to find than others (such as unpublished domains) but anything in Freebase can be found with the right query.

While the data in Freebase is licensed under a few different open data licenses, the software underlying the site is currently the proprietary property of Metaweb Technologies. Currently, we are focused exclusively on building the data commons; it is possible that private metawebs will be available at some point in the future, but for now, it’s all about the Freebase commons.

Computers: Private Data

2008-08-19T11:54:34.0017Z

I really love the Freebase data model. As well as contributing to the public data, I would also love to use it to log and organise my private data i.e. contacts, account numbers. Is it possible to create a domain that is viewable only to myself? Or alternatively, can the Freebase software be downloaded for personal use?

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

2008-08-14T22:51:12.0012Z

No problem, Mark. Freebase is quite powerful, but modeling new kinds of information is correspondingly difficult. We’ve tried to make the UI easy to use, and are still working on that, but there is an irreducible complexity, if you will, to the actual modeling process. Testing software seems like an interesting and useful domain to model, so please do let us know if we can help, if and when you do come back, maybe with a posse at your back. (-:

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

2008-08-14T21:39:23.0012Z

Sorry I tried to say thanks for taking the time to help - but that didn't get added.

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

2008-08-14T20:10:14.0000Z

Honestly this turns out to be way more complicated than I had hoped. At this stage I will just create a google spreadsheet.

Computers: How do I save a view?

2008-08-13T21:23:03.0000Z

You can't actually save a view, per se -- you can only save a filter. E.g., if you filtered the view of your type for Domain Specific Language = "yes", you could save that. However, there is currently a work-around (although I doubt this was intentional and I can't promise that it will be around forever) -- if you click the "filter results" button, a field labeled "save view as" will appear; you can enter a name and save the view without actually running a filter. The saved view will then appear on your homepage (I think), and will have a stable URL.

Computers: How do I save a view?

2008-08-13T21:18:11.0012Z

Replied to related post in the Computers domain.

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

2008-08-13T21:16:06.0005Z

You seem to have mistaken Freebase for a relational database. (-:

I note that your new type is full of text-valued properties that really should expect other types. Take a look at the Software type, for instance; the “Compatible Operating Systems” property expects a Software Compatibility type that links which links the OS and the versions in a compound value type (CVT).

You would probably benefit from checking out the Creating Types and Properties help pages, particularly the Data Modeling Guide. I think this will help answer questions about the views, as well.

Computers: hidden properties on programming languages

2008-08-13T21:07:51.0012Z

bump!

Computers: How do I save a view?

2008-08-13T20:53:49.0005Z

I've created a type: http://www.freebase.com/type/view/user/mlevison/agile_software_development/functional_test_tools and wish to change the properties that visitors will see in the default case (i.e no image, etc). How can I achieve that?

The whole goal of this is to build a repository of "Functional test tools" that users can quickly scan to figure out which tool they need.

As it stands the default view is of no interest.

Confused in Ottawa

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

2008-08-13T18:52:32.0005Z

I'm trying to document the wide array of Agile Functional test tools, in a searchable form.

My first attempt at this: http://functionaltestingtools.pbwiki.com/FrontPage is bit of mess.

Do I add the tools as individual topics and just tag them with types?

If someone could just point me to a concrete example: i.e. Blackberry is a topic. and its types are XXX.

If I've got this figured out correctly I need to add a topic per tool and them create a view. Which leads to the problem how do I create topics and views?

Looking on this page "Computer Domain" I can't see any add link for either topic or view.

Computers: hidden properties on programming languages

2008-08-07T22:49:28.0017Z

Hi all,

Programming languages have two hidden properties and I'm not sure why they're hidden: /computer/programming_language/introduced and /computer/programming_language/developers . Is this intentional? If not, can they be revealed?

Thanks,

Vishal

Fictional Character: Education?

2008-07-08T23:49:00.0000Z

I've done this, but without separating the fictional topics from the real-world topics: http://www.freebase.com/tools/schema/fictional_universe/school_in_fiction.

Fictional Character: Education?

2008-07-01T05:36:32.0000Z

I would prefer that the fictional topic be seperate from the real-world topic. i.e. University of Cambridge in the James Bond Universe be a seperate topic from the real University of Cambridge.
Perhaps 'educational institution in fiction' could have a 'based upon' property to link the fictional and real-world topics?

Fictional Character: Education?

2008-06-30T19:42:21.0012Z

An "educational institution in fiction" type could work -- we've used that locution a few times for types that can have both fictional and real-world instances.

Fictional Character: Education?

2008-06-28T13:47:06.0005Z

Could we have some way of linking in the educational background of a character? i.e. an education property.

My first thought was that we would need a 'Fictional Educational Institution' type, but that would not cover characters who were educated at real world institutions. e.g. James Bond at the University of Cambridge.

I think we therefore need an 'educational institution for fictional characters' type for the property.

Computers: Protocol Providers provide

2008-06-27T22:27:30.0012Z

Hi, shouldn't the type Protocol Provider have a property for the protocol(s) the provider provides?

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

2008-04-29T23:55:30.0000Z

Well there is somthing like that by user duck1123

Should it be a topic-based property or simply a text-based propert (there are some topics existing for some of the more well-known alter-IDs).

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

2008-04-29T23:19:45.0007Z

How about an alter-ego property? This would come in handy for superheroes. Seems that this is being stuck on as an alias right now, but there are enough superheroes that it might as well be a property, right?

Computers: "File" type

2008-04-08T18:07:17.0007Z

Thanks for the reply. In order, then:

The cryptographic hash can be useful for a number of reasons. The first example that comes to mind is that it would allow for an application to be built which would hash a file and then query Freebase to see if it was catalogued, and in this way the user could get info about a file. So the hashes are more for the sake of identification than verifying integrity, though of course they serve that purpose as well. Too, many files that are released on the internet, including software,videos, and such, have an MD5 or CRC32 hash (or both, or more) listed with them, so it's the sort of information that is typically associated with files. Since hashes can be generated for all files, it seemed more appropriate to have it on the generic File type rather than more specific ones.

Regarding Contained Work, yes, the idea was definitely to allow anything to be contained in a file (indeed, there's no particular reason why the container must be a file). I demonstrated this by having pandp12.zip contain pandp12.txt which contains Pride and Prejudice. Actually, the text file probably should contain a particular edition of the book, now that I think of it. I'm not at all in love with the name, but it was the only thing I could think of at the time. I'll try to come up with something else.

I'd like to create a type for video files as well before I decalre File to be finished, to help me see if I've missed anything vital, but I feel like what I have is pretty stable.

Thanks again for the reply. If you've got any suggestions, or further questions, I'd be happy to hear them.

Computers: "File" type

2008-04-08T16:21:17.0007Z

Hi Tracy.

Great work. I have a couple of questions/comments about the type schemas you have created.

From my point of view, not all files need a crypto hash. It definitely makes sense for files that will modify the system properties i.e. installers, os isos etc. and thus need to be verified as to their original content, however I am not quite sure I see the utility of having this information for, say plain text or pdf files. My guess would be that there are more 'pure content' (for lack of a better phrase) documents in the wild than installable softwares and programs for which the users need to be sure of the integrity of the content. Since you do plan on adding more specific filetypes, I would recommed adding the property for filetypes that generally have hashes released with them or for those filetypes that one can justify having associated hashes. If however you find that it is more convenient and useful to simply have the property in (in my experience it has been a bit hard to tell in the design phase) feel free to leave it in.

Also I was wondering as to the rationale behind having the contained work as another type? Wouldnt having a multi-valued property in the document itself (that pointed to the original work) work.If the rationale was to have an overarching type that allows you to embed any 'work' in an electronic 'container' it definitely makes sense. The name appears to be a bit ambiguous as the nature of containment and the container itself. Unfortunately I do not seem to have an alternate name for you, but that is something you might consider.

Once you are done with the schema development, please post back here and I will promote it to the main domain.

Thanks.

Computers: "File" type

2008-04-05T02:00:25.0012Z

I've published seven types in my domain which are to be used for files. I described my aim in some detail here, but in short I want to be able to create topics for widely-distributed files.

To that end, I've created the File type, as well as Document File and Compressed File types which include it, and added a topic to each of the latter two to demonstrate their use (pandp12.txt and pandp12.zip, respectively). The several additional types I've created are used in those as well.

Other types will need to be created for e.g. video files or audio files, but it will take me a bit more research before I feel like I can adequately model those. I'd like a little preliminary feedback on the types I've created so far. In particular, did I include too many or too few properties, and did I model them correctly? Are my types Cryptographic Hash and Contained Work appropriate?

Computers: Application programming interface as a Type for the Computers Domain?

2008-02-08T02:43:53.0000Z

Thanks Aseem, I will work on modeling an API Type for Computers in my personal domain and let you know when it's done so you can review it.

Computers: Application programming interface as a Type for the Computers Domain?

2008-02-07T18:36:58.0007Z

Hi.

Certainly sounds like a good idea. I think that the properties for an API in a non-web services context might be bit different. I would encourage you to go ahead and model it in your domain and if it works I will be more than glad to promote it up.

Thanks.

Computers: Application programming interface as a Type for the Computers Domain?

2008-02-07T04:26:04.0012Z

While making some additions to the API Type in the Internet Domain, I noticed that not all the API Topics I was adding were ones specific to the Internet. What about mirroring the API Type with the same and additional properties if necessary in the Computer Domain? The definition, in fact, for the API Type in the Internet Domain reads "An application programming interface (API) is a source code interface that a computer system or program library provides in order to support requests for services to be made of it by a computer program." No mention of the Internet at all.

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

2007-08-09T22:06:35.0007Z

(Sorry, meant to link to the other thread on historical persons.)

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

2007-08-09T22:05:30.0007Z

In this thread, they even have the same problem for real historical persons: "Take "Person": where their dates of birth and death are not known, the dates in which a person flourished is standardly used to disambiguate them." They want to specify the birth date as "Qing Dynasty". This will probably be solved by splitting out a separate type (like Living Thing) that defines Birth Date and which the Person type includes. (Then you could mix in a different type that defines the different kind of birth date that you need.) The relevance to "contextual assertions" still applies. If you have a type for real Living Thing (with a birth date), will a user be afraid to use it on a fictional character? Right now, they should be afaid because it implies the character is real like all the other topics with the property. But the problem is solved if the character uses the same type as real things, but asserts the birth date in the context of the fictional universe (so it doesn't come up ono searches for "real people born on this date").

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

2007-08-09T21:39:13.0007Z

I don't think this example would actually be solved by assertions, since regardless of whether we implement assertions or not, we still need a type to hold the data, and we currently lack a type that could be used for both real dates and dates in fictional calendar systems. It does seem like people want to enter this data for fictional characters, so it's worth trying to model a type we can use. A compound-value type with two properties might suffice -- one of type "datetime" for fictional characters in universes using the Gregorian calendar (AND who are born within the range 10,000 BCE - AD 9999), and one or two for all others. I have a bazillion things on my plate right now, but if I have time, I'll play around with it.

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

2007-08-09T20:10:11.0000Z

This came up on a couple Fictional Character topics where someone wanted to give a birth date so they had to make the character a Person too, which is a no-no. To beat the same drum again: This problem is solved by allowing users to use the existing types for Person, Education, Politician, Author, etc. etc. on a fictional character - just put the assertion for the bithdate or "term of office as president" in the context of the fictional universe. In everyday life, people put properties, not only on topics, but on assertions. Quotation: "President Bush says there are WMDs but the French prime minister says there are not". Citation: "According to the US Census, the population is 100,000". Fictional assertions about real things "In the universe the 'Independence Day' movie, the Empire State Building is destroyed on July 2, 1996". (Wouldn't it be great to put this assertion on the real Empire State Building topic without having to create a separate type for 'Fictional Building' when we have to make a separate topic?)

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

2007-08-09T18:50:51.0007Z

The problem here is that lots of fictional characters exist in universes that don't use the Gregorian calendar, so we'd need to find a way to capture Gregorian dates, Stardates, Middle-Earth dates, years A.F. (After Ford), etc.

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

2007-08-09T04:47:17.0004Z

Can you add a Date of Birth property (and maybe Date of Death too)?

tim

Computers: Capture programming language *implementations*?

Computers: Capture programming language *implementations*?

Computers: hidden properties on programming languages

Computers: Private Data

Computers: Private Data

Computers: Private Data

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

Computers: How do I save a view?

Computers: How do I save a view?

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

Computers: hidden properties on programming languages

Computers: How do I save a view?

Computers: How do I create a new table (at whatever level is appropriate)

Computers: hidden properties on programming languages

Fictional Character: Education?

Fictional Character: Education?

Fictional Character: Education?

Fictional Character: Education?

Computers: Protocol Providers provide

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

Computers: "File" type

Computers: "File" type

Computers: "File" type

Computers: Application programming interface as a Type for the Computers Domain?

Computers: Application programming interface as a Type for the Computers Domain?

Computers: Application programming interface as a Type for the Computers Domain?

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

Fictional Character: Add property: Date of Birth

Computers: Capture programming language implementations?

Computers: Capture programming language implementations?